2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

2010 SS Upgrade options

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 03:55 PM
  #1  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
2010 SS Upgrade options

Hello there, long post but covering all my birds with hopefully one post. As much info as possible is highly appreciated. I have purchased the Premium membership to show my support as i run a local car website and know support is very important.

First thing i want to express is i want to upgrade the car but keep it as realiable as possible at the same time and retaining the warranty as much as possible

Id like to have HP numbers in the 300-325 range and Torque to match while retaining the stock turbo as its all covered and still brand new.

Can i accomplish this with the stock IC?

With that said

I have spoken to BYT*SS*TURBO about a HPT tune as i already own HPT and im going to go that route over buying the GM Stage 1 kit i believe. I will just get the sensors and use a tune from him.

Once they open up the 2010s on HPT i will order an Intake from either Hahn or Dejon or someone. Any feedback from owners of good intakes?

Next is a downpipe upgrade from Hahn or ZZP with the catless option i believe. I will keep the factory Downpipe for warranty issues or such just in case. I like the placement of the 02 sensor on the Hahn. What are your feelings on these?

For the Brakes i will order Hawk pads and just continue to buy factory rotors as needed once i need to do them.

Only upgrade ive done so far is add a K&N drop in. Any simple upgrades to help out until i can get inside the computer with HPT?

Thanks for all the help and info and look forward to being a contributing member here.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:03 PM
  #2  
BeermanSSSC's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 06-27-05
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 0
From: Wilson, NY
First of all, Welcome. Second, if you do go with a custom tune using HPtuners you will lose your powertrain warranty if you take it in for service or repairs and GM scans the ECU. Your best bet if you want to retain the factory warranty is a factory upgrade. GM stage kits. IDK if the stock IC can support that much airflow, other people I'm sure will be able help you out.

Hawk pads are good, I have them. Just make sure you grease the **** outta the rear caliper pins, they seem to be an issue with the turbo balts.

Last edited by BeermanSSSC; Apr 2, 2010 at 04:03 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 04:38 PM
  #3  
Iam Broke's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: 10-24-08
Posts: 3,356
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the Moon
If you 'Write Entire' the stock tune before seeing the stealership with HP Tuners, they'll never know it was tuned.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 07:28 PM
  #4  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
Yes i was reading and will just flash the stock tune back on before dealer visits
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:47 PM
  #5  
BeermanSSSC's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 06-27-05
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 0
From: Wilson, NY
Originally Posted by Iam Broke
If you 'Write Entire' the stock tune before seeing the stealership with HP Tuners, they'll never know it was tuned.
Does this really work? They can't tell how many times its been flashed or when it was flashed last?
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 12:14 AM
  #6  
Stamina's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 02-09-09
Posts: 4,374
Likes: 5
From: Tejas
Originally Posted by BeermanSSSC
Does this really work? They can't tell how many times its been flashed or when it was flashed last?
Yes, correct.

With a write entire, any way for the ECU to have known it had been flashed before gets reflashed too, so it all starts fresh.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 12:35 AM
  #7  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
Thats good news about the Write Entire

Are there people running the Hahn or Injen CAI's without any issues on a stock tune? Until HPT is able to do the 2010s id like to add an intake when i order my DP.

Ive always liked CAI's but don't wanna cause issues until a tune can fix it
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:04 AM
  #8  
RiceCop's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: 09-18-07
Posts: 799
Likes: 0
From: Palm Beach, FL
I was under the impression that the BCM keeps track of all the flashes so they will know it was flashed X amount of times.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 12:33 AM
  #9  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
Think ive decided on the ZZP downpipe with catless option

Anyone have comments on their experience with ZZP?
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 01:21 AM
  #10  
SXD45's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 02-28-10
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: Friendswood, Texas
They can tell it has been done, there was a thread posted that GM is digging much deeper than before so they can deny warranty work. From what it said there is something to where they can see how many times it has been flashed as ricecop has posted. I will see if I can find the thread.

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/188297/

Last edited by SXD45; Apr 4, 2010 at 01:21 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 01:37 AM
  #11  
Stamina's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 02-09-09
Posts: 4,374
Likes: 5
From: Tejas
Originally Posted by SXD45
They can tell it has been done, there was a thread posted that GM is digging much deeper than before so they can deny warranty work. From what it said there is something to where they can see how many times it has been flashed as ricecop has posted. I will see if I can find the thread.

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/188297/
That tells about how they check the CVN. The CVN is a calculated number that the ECU creates based on what's programmed on it. If anything changes on it, then the CVN will be a different value.

This is how Vince has made his tunes "undetectable", by spoofing the ECU into showing the same number no matter what is programmed on it. In a nutshell, it's a problem that's already been resolved.

*Note that HPT does not have that support at this time, so you'll want to do a write entire with a stock calibration before taking it in so the CVN will be what it is supposed to be again.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 09:48 AM
  #12  
beast10007's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-09-09
Posts: 1,155
Likes: 0
From: Kalamazoo, MI
I have the ZZP DP and it is great I love the power and the sound it makes...its not hard to install

I did through a code tho the other day I have had it for 12,000 miles.
I the code went away the next time I started it
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 09:54 AM
  #13  
SXD45's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 02-28-10
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: Friendswood, Texas
Originally Posted by Stamina
That tells about how they check the CVN. The CVN is a calculated number that the ECU creates based on what's programmed on it. If anything changes on it, then the CVN will be a different value.

This is how Vince has made his tunes "undetectable", by spoofing the ECU into showing the same number no matter what is programmed on it. In a nutshell, it's a problem that's already been resolved.

*Note that HPT does not have that support at this time, so you'll want to do a write entire with a stock calibration before taking it in so the CVN will be what it is supposed to be again.
Well it looks like everyone should go with a Trifecta tune, all in all if you want to make more power you need to take into consideration that things will break and at the same time its not GM's fault you did it so you may have to man up and pay for the fix. Just my .02
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 12:35 PM
  #14  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
I think i will be ordering the ZZP downpipe this week then. I find it the best deal out there for a DP

Next will be a Intake of some kind. I like the Hahn one, are you guys throwing codes?
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 02:04 PM
  #15  
ConroyCavScout's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 06-15-09
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
From: Colorado Springs, CO
i all my parts are hahn, including my catless downpipe, except my charge pipes. the only time ive thrown a code is when i had a shop custom make me a turbo back exhaust. as soon as i got my hahn downpipe on it went away. i hope that helps.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 02:40 PM
  #16  
pantherqs's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 02-22-10
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: Windsor, Ontario
Originally Posted by SXD45
Well it looks like everyone should go with a Trifecta tune, all in all if you want to make more power you need to take into consideration that things will break and at the same time its not GM's fault you did it so you may have to man up and pay for the fix. Just my .02
Why would you favor Trifecta, when HPT's write entire reset's the CVN just as well?
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 05:32 PM
  #17  
efactor's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: 09-24-09
Posts: 1,303
Likes: 0
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Well haven't gotten my Hahn intake in the mail yet, because its on back order. Just got done putting in my Injen CP. I'm anxious to see what it can do with my GM Tune. The Injen CP was easy to install, but the 2inch couplers you get to connect between the intercooler and the lower piece from CP sucks.... Had that blown off 2 times already and thrown a CEL. Everytime I gotten pass 10psi, that lower piece will blow off because of the length size being 2inches and building up higher pressure to get my boost pressures up high. The other couplers from Injen, are holding up just fine. So I had to go to NationalSpeed to get a 4inch coupler made so that both ends would connect without blowing off. After pushing 20-23 psi about 10 times, it finally now holds together and love it so far better than that ugly, restrictive charge pipe from GM. The CP should be your other choice for better airflow and more psi response.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 05:37 PM
  #18  
Mike08ss/tc's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 03-25-09
Posts: 904
Likes: 0
From: Plattsburgh, NY
Originally Posted by D-mac
Think ive decided on the ZZP downpipe with catless option

Anyone have comments on their experience with ZZP?
i have the zzp catted on mine and i love it. i would like to go catless soon. zzp has very good products.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 06:15 PM
  #19  
SXD45's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 02-28-10
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: Friendswood, Texas
Originally Posted by pantherqs
Why would you favor Trifecta, when HPT's write entire reset's the CVN just as well?
If you read the threads I had posted the CVN's have to match, if HPT's reset will make sure the techstream comes up with matching CVN's then cool. I have a GMS1 so I could really care less just trying to help the OP out so he doesnt have his warranty denied.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 10:08 PM
  #20  
D-mac's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 03-14-10
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 1
From: Ontario, Canada
Appreciate all the Feedback

Also thanks SXD45 about warranty, thats my only major concern, don't wanna void engine warranty

Going to email ZZP right now for some shipping costs
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Zharrington_2010LNF
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
21
Feb 8, 2016 01:43 PM
KMO43
Front Page News
33
Jan 12, 2016 12:01 AM
dieGone
Complete Cars
0
Oct 1, 2015 06:27 PM
DANRICKARD
Problems/Service/Maintenance
8
Oct 1, 2015 12:08 AM
KMO43
Featured Car Showcase
37
Sep 27, 2015 08:53 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:57 PM.