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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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2012 Grandsport Vette vs '08+ SS/TC

So, I saw an article on the new Grandsport corvette. The 1/4 times were pretty consistant in a 6spd, and got a best of 12.5 @ 115mph, in good weather and elevation of course.

I was just curious to your thought on what is needed to keep up with it in our SS/TC's?
Obvious bolt-ons and tune and driver mod, but what else in detail do you think is needed?

This may be a little dumb, but for some reason I always gauge performance on a vette because I think its the best all around performer in a normal car, and I've always wanted a C6 6spd...lol
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC

I was just curious to your thought on what is needed to keep up with it in our SS/TC's?
buy a Grand Sport and install a cobalt badge on it?
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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bigger turbo... 400+ HP club. Remember they are fiberglass... crazy light for motor size.. possible internal work
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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you could do it with the stock turbo, but you will need drag slicks to do it.

Fastest stock turbo time ive seen was ZZPs 08 cobalt SS with slicks. They ran an 11.99@114mph.

Easier way to do it is swap the turbo.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Ive seen the 2012 gran sport running 12.1 bone stock.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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i thought guys with full bolt-ons and a aggressive tune and good tires were running 12's @ 110+ ?
ZZP ran an 11.6 with slicks and consistant low 12's on street tires with stock turbo.

the Vette weighs 3350lbs with 436hp and 428lbft.
So, our power to weight ratio is probably better, but is fwd and has not as good of a powertrain.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Dig he will rape your face.

Roll completely depends on your tune. If term is tuning you you may dp well.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Lol, thats what im trying to get at. What are guys having to do to get the straight-line performance of the vette?

btw, i need new tires and my clutch installed before i do anymore racing, because right now it slips and spins all over the place under full-throttle...lol
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Many people have gotten low 12's out of them bone stock.

GM underrated the LS3 by a fair degree, many put 420ish to the tires in stock form.

Basically look at the trap speeds, 115mph is high for a RWD car, it has much more in it than a 12.5.

So basically the fastest stock turbo LNF should run side by side a bone stock C6 GS, provided the drivers are of equal skill level.

That being said, toss some slicks on the Grand Sport and I would be surprised to see it run mid-high 11's with nothing else.


My old man has a 2010 Grand Sport and it would of taken my buddies fully bolted, tuned, meth injected LNF, haven driven both cars.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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At the time I had:

Ottp stage 2 mounts
Tr8 I/c
Injen hotside
k&n sri
The infamous 30 spike tune



cobalt ss vs ls3 corvette - YouTube
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Dart, you are funny man. You have a video for everything...lol
Looks like at about 120mph he started to creep a bit back, probably would have been even at 140 and pulling.
Does the high rise wing make a huge difference for speed? I hear that it make the trap speed about 2-4mph slower than a wingless car?
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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Lol that's a myth. It does affect your top speed iirc. 155 vs 157 drag limited
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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i just saw a stock 6spd dyno 392rwhp, 373wtq, and auto was 374rwhp, 362wtq...
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bra.. you should dust these, I've heard the new 5.0's can smoke em.. an you got an SS/TC?? yea bro, jus make sure you get a video of the rapeage when you're done
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Originally Posted by MastaShaKe_88
bra.. you should dust these, I've heard the new 5.0's can smoke em.. an you got an SS/TC?? yea bro, jus make sure you get a video of the rapeage when you're done
not true recheck that thread u saw the stats were invalid that the guy posted

that being said... you might have a chance against an old man who can't rly drive
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lol, from a roll i am very confident, but at a drag track, not so much, unless the other guy doesnt know how to drive..ha..
Once I get the Conti- extreme dw tires and my ky stage 3 installed, then hopefully i would have a better chance. Looks like I need that hahn 20g to run low 12's in the quater mile though
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
i thought guys with full bolt-ons and a aggressive tune and good tires were running 12's @ 110+ ?
ZZP ran an 11.6 with slicks and consistant low 12's on street tires with stock turbo.

the Vette weighs 3350lbs with 436hp and 428lbft.
So, our power to weight ratio is probably better, but is fwd and has not as good of a powertrain.
11.62, they didn't run low 12's on street tires. I ran 11.95 on the stocker
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Originally Posted by newt
Many people have gotten low 12's out of them bone stock.

GM underrated the LS3 by a fair degree, many put 420ish to the tires in stock form.

Basically look at the trap speeds, 115mph is high for a RWD car, it has much more in it than a 12.5.

So basically the fastest stock turbo LNF should run side by side a bone stock C6 GS, provided the drivers are of equal skill level.

That being said, toss some slicks on the Grand Sport and I would be surprised to see it run mid-high 11's with nothing else.


My old man has a 2010 Grand Sport and it would of taken my buddies fully bolted, tuned, meth injected LNF, haven driven both cars.
Fastest stock turbo cobalts will beat the vette as far as mph 117-119 is what ZZP and I trapped. I guess we could never really find out tho since neither of us have the stock turbo on.

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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
Dart, you are funny man. You have a video for everything...lol
Looks like at about 120mph he started to creep a bit back, probably would have been even at 140 and pulling.
Does the high rise wing make a huge difference for speed? I hear that it make the trap speed about 2-4mph slower than a wingless car?
Not that much a difference.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MastaShaKe_88
bra.. you should dust these, I've heard the new 5.0's can smoke em.. an you got an SS/TC?? yea bro, jus make sure you get a video of the rapeage when you're done
Guy at the track with a 2012 5.0 has nothing but mt tires out back and skinnies and runs 12.0 everytime at 115-116 with a one time run of 11.95
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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cmiller, thanks for your replies...
gimme your secrets on stock turbo at the track.
What tires and launch rpms?
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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M and h slicks and 6k launches. 1.7 60 foots. And that before cams or any other fuel system upgrades and before all the new tables from hptuners.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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Those LS3s run very strong. I could most likely get a kill on an LS2 from a roll, but an LS3 was always a toss up.

Originally Posted by Dart_SI
Lol that's a myth. It does affect your top speed iirc. 155 vs 157 drag limited
*cough* That other part is also a myth... *cough*
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Originally Posted by bri2203
buy a Grand Sport and install a cobalt badge on it?
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
M and h slicks and 6k launches. 1.7 60 foots. And that before cams or any other fuel system upgrades and before all the new tables from hptuners.
awesome...what did you ever get on street tires or drag radials?
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