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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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3 bar sensors installed. Fluttering now.

Installed the 3 bar sensors on the mani and charge piping. I know the wiring is all correct and what not. Im going to datalog/tune asap but I got mad flutter from the bpv, car sounds like its coughing between gears i am positive I did everything correctly. What's wrong! Can anyone give me som help.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Orings.

Did they drop right into place or take some "persuasion"?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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did you install the larger o-rings?


Nick beat me to it...^
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Yeah I put oil on the large black o rings they both needed to be pushed pretty hard to pop into place
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Don't nail me to the cross for asking this, but I've gotta ask the obvious here. Are you tuned for the 3 bar maps or are you still running the same Trifecta tune you had with the 2.5 bar maps?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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^this also lol
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Don't nail me to the cross for asking this, but I've gotta ask the obvious here. Are you tuned for the 3 bar maps or are you still running the same Trifecta tune you had with the 2.5 bar maps?
Same tune as the 2.5 bar sensors. I jus installed them yestersay. Should I pull them out and check the o rings for rips n tears I had to push pretty hard
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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no... you need to take them out and keep them out until you are retuned. They will not work with the stock calibration, nor with your Trifecta tune setup for the 2.5 bar maps.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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bingo, problem solved.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Same tune as the 2.5 bar sensors. I jus installed them yestersay. Should I pull them out and check the o rings for rips n tears I had to push pretty hard
yeah, like everyone said, you need to be retuned for the new sensors. PM me if you don't have a local dealer and I'll get you set up.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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yeah, like everyone said, you need to be retuned for the new sensors. PM me if you don't have a local dealer and I'll get you set up.
lol.. always gotta try to make a sale
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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The dude is 5K miles away LOL
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Okay so the flutter is due to not being tuned for 3 bar?

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lol.. always gotta try to make a sale
Yeah I got a local dealer. For trifecta thanks tho!

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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yup, its because your tune is way the eff off right now.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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F*(k it ure good drive it till it blows up then take it to the dealer for a new engine and then get mad because its not.covered. sooo hmm I say take the maps out.and put stockers in for.now. and by the.way I'm not.being a jerk just sarcastic. Because all the. Blown engines in the. Net lol
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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if i ever do the 3 bar maps i'm just going to Tee into stock harness and leave the stock pigtails in lol
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Leverington
Okay so the flutter is due to not being tuned for 3 bar?



Yeah I got a local dealer. For trifecta thanks tho!
Yeah I'm sure that RiceCop is a nice guy and all, but stick with your local guy for the retune.

Just out of curiousity though, seeing as how you're Trifecta tuned why did you even purchase the 3 bar maps in the first place?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Stockers tend to go kupoowey lol with higher boost
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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hmm.. I'm know there have been a few running into issues with the stockers, but not all that many from what I've seen just yet. I'm just wondering if he's thinking he may see some sort of perfomance gain from the 3bar. If that's the case then he may have just waisted his money... or at the very least now he has back-ups on hand for if his stockers do decide to grenade..
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ tru tru tru.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Yeah I'm sure that RiceCop is a nice guy and all, but stick with your local guy for the retune.

Just out of curiousity though, seeing as how you're Trifecta tuned why did you even purchase the 3 bar maps in the first place?


I service mostly people that don't have a local dealer or that are local to me. I treat my customers well and go above and beyond for them. That's why I have several repeat customers that live in other states, some that have dealers near by. It's the same going through me as if he went through CIA or through Trifecta's site, just cheaper, or at least similarly priced. I'm not out to steal anyone's sales and I even refer people to BYT or Term2 depending on what they want. I'm not sure how many tunes most people on here have sold, but I've also done HP Tuners and manual tuning on several carbureted cars. I've been in the racing and high performance game for over 10 years. I'm not really trying to bash you for saying that or prove myself or anything, just letting you guys know that I'm not just some guy with a cable, I actually have experience and know what I'm doing.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
The dude is 5K miles away LOL
Yeah, and I have several cables and have done several cars from thousands of miles away. Like I said man, I'm not trying to start anything and I do refer people to you and term2 if they want to go that route, but I don't care how far away they are. The cost to ship them a cable is the same if they are 100 or 1000 miles away, and you don't need to be close to email a tune file to someone.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Yeah I'm sure that RiceCop is a nice guy and all, but stick with your local guy for the retune.

Just out of curiousity though, seeing as how you're Trifecta tuned why did you even purchase the 3 bar maps in the first place?
My stock sensors blew I got a two codes for sensors on my mani n charge piping
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
hmm.. I'm know there have been a few running into issues with the stockers, but not all that many from what I've seen just yet. I'm just wondering if he's thinking he may see some sort of perfomance gain from the 3bar. If that's the case then he may have just waisted his money... or at the very least now he has back-ups on hand for if his stockers do decide to grenade..
I know people run stock sensors with trifecta tune but after getting tuned mine lasted about a month lol so I talked to Vince and he said just cough up n get the upgraded ones so u don't have this problem again.
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u r prob running more then 20 lbs so thats why they pop.
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