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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Any tips on installing an intake?

I just got my CIA intake in. Haven't looked too closely yet, but whats the easiest way to get to the turbo inlet to take off the old/put on the new intake? From the top? Bottom? any angle easier than others? Im a big guy, so its going to be hard for me no matter what, so any tips are greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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yeah from the top of the box in a downward motion tape it shut and send it back
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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^ this
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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I'd highly suggest what others have said but if you do install it, do it from the top. I would take out the sensor, then take off the top of the airbox, unhook the breather line along with the bpv vacuum hose, and the rest is pretty self explainatory.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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I am still waiting to get mine in from them but I wouldn't listen to all these people about not installing it. Clear Image were the only ones to get the intake to cause no fluctuations in the fuel trims, it is going to sound better and look ten times nicer. I don't know why everyone is saying not to do it.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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You'll learn the hard way
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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lol most of us had to learn the hard way lol
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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CIA intake? I thought everyone was using the FBI intake???
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Intakes = waste of money
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Your in for a world of hurtin with it man... trust me.

But the easiest thing to do.... get a swivel and 7mm socket (if i remember correctly) and loosen it.

Just remember to take off the recirc pipe or it'll break your stock ones little nipple off.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Hahn and reign mod ftw
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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I'm leaning towards the hahn too... but hopefully OTTP will get theirs out here shortly so I can test it out for them!
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by IsItFast?
I just got my CIA intake in. Haven't looked too closely yet, but whats the easiest way to get to the turbo inlet to take off the old/put on the new intake? From the top? Bottom? any angle easier than others? Im a big guy, so its going to be hard for me no matter what, so any tips are greatly appreciated.
If it uses the same silicone elbow as the CIA cold air intake it is going to kink like crazy. Ask PrincessTurbo (Ryan) his was kinked basically shut which is not acceptable. He had to buy a new reinforced elbow. I can tell you from logging with both his stock airbox and the CIA intake there was no difference in airflow and the fuel trims were affected although not by that much just 3-5% which is not that bad. He also said there is no noticeable performance difference between the stock airbox with a K&N in there vs the intake. We have no before and after dyno's but I know when I had my intake on my car I could feel a noticeable difference up top.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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If it uses the same silicone elbow as the CIA cold air intake it is going to kink like crazy. Ask PrincessTurbo (Ryan) his was kinked basically shut which is not acceptable. He had to buy a new reinforced elbow. I can tell you from logging with both his stock airbox and the CIA intake there was no difference in airflow and the fuel trims were affected although not by that much just 3-5% which is not that bad. He also said there is no noticeable performance difference between the stock airbox with a K&N in there vs the intake. We have no before and after dyno's but I know when I had my intake on my car I could feel a noticeable difference up top.
Sooo. The fuel trims stayed basically the same.
And there was no power difference with his? But you had some with yours?
Is that right?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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I learned the hard way. My car keeps going into limp mode with an intake every so often. So yeah to the stock intake I go.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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I'll be the first to admit, and have several times on this forum, installing the intake, any brand intake, on these cars is a ball buster. For the amount of R&D time we have, time dealing with suppliers, etc I decided to dis-continue the cold air kits. We will still offer the SRI but not until we catch-up on production.

The silicone elbow has proven to be a challenge. I have tried two different suppliers and still the silicone was not exactly what i wanted. They were made from 3 ply instead of 5 ply so they flex quite a bit. On the local installs i have done it took me a long time to achieve the correct fit.

I have had a couple customers send me feedback about different things they have done and I have tried to implement those ideas.

The end of the intake tubes 9both CAI and SRI) have been shortened by 1" and i have been trimming the silicone elbows down by 1/2" on the turbo end. This seems to have taken care of the flexing issues.

As for performance, the biggest restriction is definitely the stock filter. On the dyno we saw 15 HP to the wheels just from pulling the filter out. The CAI and SRI are good for roughly the same. The biggest difference going from the stock intake box (with K&N filter) to an after market intake is the looks under the hood.

As for install, I'm also a big guy and it's tough working behind the engine. There's no room and patience is lost pretty quickly. The hardest part about removing the stock intake is getting to the clamp on the turbo inlet. Once that is done and the stock system is out, swap the rubber bushing from the stock box to the metal bracket on the intake. Then it's a matter of placing the intake tube into the silicone elbow while positioning it to the turbo. There's really no way I can describe this process.

Anyways, I understand the frustration of others as I share the same frustration. I am still waiting to hear back from my supplier about the elbows. I am trying to get them to send 5 ply replacements. If they do, i'll be able to swap with everyone.

Thanks all.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Nice. Thanks for te info Dan. I didn't have an intake from u guys but that info is great. I'll e puttin my stock intake back on next week and I guess I'll just order the k&n from autozone
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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I noticed that almost everyone that has had issues with their intakes it has not been a Clear Image Intake. They did more R&D and there is little to no fuel trim fluctuation. I understand that without the GMS1 or a tune the intake is not going to be a big benefit on a stock car but the look and sound are great and when people do get the GMS1 it will deffinitely help them out.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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It's cause most people haven't received the CIA intake yet
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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haha true.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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installed... creating a how-to now. Its actually really easy once you get into it. Took less than 30 minutes. Now to get that hahn piping chromex coated since the red got worn off when it rubbed on the hood.


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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JPizzle
Sooo. The fuel trims stayed basically the same.
And there was no power difference with his? But you had some with yours?
Is that right?
Two different intakes. I had the AEM intake on mine. It did make a noticeable difference in topend power but it seemed to loose some low end and had other issues (there is a thread somewhere in this section about the issues with the AEM intake) even after I retuned the MAF tables for it. Going by the logs I have and what Ryan told me there was no noticeable difference in power. The acceleration times according to the logs are about the same as the stock airbox.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Two different intakes. I had the AEM intake on mine. It did make a noticeable difference in topend power but it seemed to loose some low end and had other issues (there is a thread somewhere in this section about the issues with the AEM intake) even after I retuned the MAF tables for it. Going by the logs I have and what Ryan told me there was no noticeable difference in power. The acceleration times according to the logs are about the same as the stock airbox.
Wow! Thanks man!
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Wow! Thanks man!
Your welcome.
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