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Old 04-18-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 09TcSedan
Bye bye gasmileage lol youll we addicted to the panda sneeze!

K&N is where its at! Put mine on about a month or so ago and loveee ittt!
Haha!!!! My gas milage already sucks. Nothing like hearing the sneeze . Specially when other base cobalts are checking you out lol
Old 04-18-2012, 12:33 PM
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It sounds awesome. Right now you can hear your turbo spool but once you get the k&n on your turbo comes to life x10 lol
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One last question. Got my k&n intake just now. My stage 1 kit will be here tomorrow. Is it best to do em individualy or same time?? I know GMS1 "disables learn down feature". So would you do that first and then intake? Or does it not matter?
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:24 PM
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add the intake have them tune it for it on , just make sure u take it to a dealer that is aftermarket part friendly otherwise they might give u $hit for it and not tune u for it
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Originally Posted by rever3nce
Haha!!!! My gas milage already sucks. Nothing like hearing the sneeze . Specially when other base cobalts are checking you out lol
Sooo addicted to panda sneeze, aka puppy kick...

Can't wait to get my intake on and get tuned for it. I know you can hear the turbo more with an intake, but can you hear the BPV (sneeze) more too?
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Originally Posted by brainchasm
Sooo addicted to panda sneeze, aka puppy kick...

Can't wait to get my intake on and get tuned for it. I know you can hear the turbo more with an intake, but can you hear the BPV (sneeze) more too?
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Getting mine installed in about an hour )). Excited! Thank god I filled up yesterday lol
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:00 PM
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going from a stock intake with GMS1 you can just barely hear the panda sneeze. with a K&N with GMS1 or i guess any tune at that matter you can hear the BPV 100% better
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Originally Posted by rever3nce
One last question. Got my k&n intake just now. My stage 1 kit will be here tomorrow. Is it best to do em individualy or same time?? I know GMS1 "disables learn down feature". So would you do that first and then intake? Or does it not matter?
I hope you didn't put the K&N on it before you took it in. Its just one more thing for them to hassle you about and no they can't tune you for it. The stage 1 tune is a one size fits all, they just load it on so it doesn't/can't change for your existing mods. Put it on after.
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I really wish somebody had a baseline Dyno, then a Dyno with GMS1, then a Dyno with GMS1 plus the K&N. I'd even love for there to be a Turbo XS Dyno after that so I can see what I'm going to get from this $1,200...
Old 04-18-2012, 08:06 PM
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^i may be able to get your request......... but its not going to be any time soon.. I can run a baseline though as of now.. no money for mods.. yet!
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i was thinking about dynoing my balt when i had GMS1 only. but couldnt look at the parts ive had sitting in my garage any longer lol
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Yea, and I don't wanna do GMS1, K&N and DP all at once for the same reasons. I want to be able to at least feel the upgrade a little and be able to compare it. Doing all those mods same day would be awesome, but would take away from that. That's why I want to see a Dyno chart.
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Originally Posted by mufinman007
add the intake have them tune it for it on , just make sure u take it to a dealer that is aftermarket part friendly otherwise they might give u $hit for it and not tune u for it
The dealer cant tune anything really ..... they just flash the canned GM stage tune to the car . They cant change any parameters of the tune so your better off putting the K&N sri on the car after you get it home ..... that way they cant give you any grief for installing it .

The K&N intake will skew the fuel trims on GM's stage tuning .... hell ,even the K&N drop in filter throws it off . Sometimes you can get lucky and turn the intake filter to dial in the trims a little closer but i wouldn't count on it being spot on.

ZZP's advice is the way to go if you have to stick with GM's tune.
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Originally Posted by AaronJ
I hope you didn't put the K&N on it before you took it in. Its just one more thing for them to hassle you about and no they can't tune you for it. The stage 1 tune is a one size fits all, they just load it on so it doesn't/can't change for your existing mods. Put it on after.
I have a buddy that woks for GM . Hes gonna be the one working on the car . Installed the k&n not long ago. Best sound EVER!!!!!! Amazing
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Originally Posted by rukkee

ZZP's advice is the way to go if you have to stick with GM's tune.
What advice is that?
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Well here are some pics after the install. I must say normal driving and boosting sound CRAZY good. I felt like I was driving a spaceship in 5th grear just cruising on the freeway. Sounds like your shutting down a spaceship or something lol .

bottom line is I love this thing!!!




and here is the video




GMS1 tomorrow or friday!!! STOKED
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5 gear WOT is a clutch killer.

It wakes the turbo up so much vs. Stock intake.

When my GF. Is riding with me she makes the wooosh sound after my car does lol
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Make sure you turn the filter, so at the end of the cone filter the engraved 'K&N' is upside down. It wont skew fuel trims up as bad or atleast thats what ive read lol
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Originally Posted by 09TcSedan
Make sure you turn the filter, so at the end of the cone filter the engraved 'K&N' is upside down. It wont skew fuel trims up as bad or atleast thats what ive read lol
HMM,,, I'm a bit confused by what you are saying.. do you have a pic?
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Right now no. Try searching it. Theres a thread floating around with more ibfo on it
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Originally Posted by DM725
What advice is that?
See below quote 8).

Originally Posted by Matt M
ZZP silicone intake tube will get you the most hp/dollar and does not require tuning changes.


Originally Posted by 09TcSedan
5 gear WOT is a clutch killer.

It wakes the turbo up so much vs. Stock intake.

When my GF. Is riding with me she makes the wooosh sound after my car does lol
Very true ..... low RPM high gear WOT is tough on these cars cause the LNF makes peak TQ in the 2K rpm range

Originally Posted by 09TcSedan
Make sure you turn the filter, so at the end of the cone filter the engraved 'K&N' is upside down. It wont skew fuel trims up as bad or atleast thats what ive read lol
Again true ...... The K&N filter isn't perfectly round , it's almost like egg shaped . By turning the bulge in the filter you can manipulate the fuel trims to a certain degree . I tested mine out before my tuned was tweaked for it and I gain 2-3 % points to the good by doing it .

Originally Posted by jpower102
HMM,,, I'm a bit confused by what you are saying.. do you have a pic?
I will have to look for the thread where someone did a how to and showed the best position the car liked the filter in . It helps to have a dashhawk or RPD to access the LTFT (long term fuel trim) readings .

Edit: Actually there is a metal seam in the filter that holds it together ..... position that at 12 0'clock (actually people say 12:30 ) and it's supposed to help fuel trims for cars with canned tunes.

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