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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:05 AM
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Are bov bad for your car?

I'm curious to know if bov are bad for our engines? If I got one would I need to get a tune?
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:29 AM
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Everyone else is going to bash on you and tell you to use the search button before posting and what not, the whole nine yards, but I'm not like that lol. As for it being bad for your motor, i doubt it, but as for needing a tune, it is up in the air. Some people, very few, get away with running one without a tune, and it is definitely recommended that you do get a tune to avoid having issues because our cars don't seem to like them
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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Now why would anyone on this site say use the search button.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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If you run a recurculating bov the issues should go away. But if you want a louder sound from the stock BPV, get an k&n intake and a forge bpv
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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Just my .02 the search on this site is worthless.
The lnf pcm will give you a unmetered air cel and go into limp mode withount a proper tune for an atmospheric bov.
Is say get some mods like.charge pipe bov and down pipe then get a simple.trifecta tune. And sorry it looks like my phone is on its .
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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Thanks guys, this is helping, so I would need a tune then? Cause if not my car will run rich if I researched right. So treadstone makes a bpv block off plate for our cars and if I put that on can I just run one vaccum line/hose just to my new bov ? Then tune?
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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you need a maf relocation... i really dont care how many guys sit there and say "you dont need a maf relocation or its un-needed." fact of the matter is without relocating the maf you run into the issue of the maf still reading un-metered air.

bottom line is you wanna blow a minimum of 400-600 bucks for a bov, cold pipe with maf relocate, upper pipe with the flange welded or you will have to get one welded, labor charge etc etc for something that just going to make the psh sound go ahead its your car and money.....

tial is the best by far with the synapse unit being behind it. the rest are sub par imho. turbo xs is a pos and they all leak when u start to throw some decent boost at them so stay away from those.

easiest solution is get a forge unit and an intake and be happy and get some other mods with the saved money. if you intend to go big turbo(and i dont mean a zfr wr2 wr3) then a bov would be worth it because you will need it with the big turbo but other then that its a waste of money on these cars.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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you need a maf relocation... i really dont care how many guys sit there and say "you dont need a maf relocation or its un-needed." fact of the matter is without relocating the maf you run into the issue of the maf still reading un-metered air.

bottom line is you wanna blow a minimum of 400-600 bucks for a bov, cold pipe with maf relocate, upper pipe with the flange welded or you will have to get one welded, labor charge etc etc for something that just going to make the psh sound go ahead its your car and money.....

tial is the best by far with the synapse unit being behind it. the rest are sub par imho. turbo xs is a pos and they all leak when u start to throw some decent boost at them so stay away from those.

easiest solution is get a forge unit and an intake and be happy and get some other mods with the saved money. if you intend to go big turbo(and i dont mean a zfr wr2 wr3) then a bov would be worth it because you will need it with the big turbo but other then that its a waste of money on these cars.
Thank you so much, you have convinced me not to get one!
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
you need a maf relocation... i really dont care how many guys sit there and say "you dont need a maf relocation or its un-needed." fact of the matter is without relocating the maf you run into the issue of the maf still reading un-metered air.

bottom line is you wanna blow a minimum of 400-600 bucks for a bov, cold pipe with maf relocate, upper pipe with the flange welded or you will have to get one welded, labor charge etc etc for something that just going to make the psh sound go ahead its your car and money.....

tial is the best by far with the synapse unit being behind it. the rest are sub par imho. turbo xs is a pos and they all leak when u start to throw some decent boost at them so stay away from those.

easiest solution is get a forge unit and an intake and be happy and get some other mods with the saved money. if you intend to go big turbo(and i dont mean a zfr wr2 wr3) then a bov would be worth it because you will need it with the big turbo but other then that its a waste of money on these cars.
do u guess the regular forge or atmosphere?
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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I just bought a zfr and full bolt ons and I bought a bov can I not use it without more parts
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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If you want the BOV sound get the forge atmospheric BOV, please dont mistaken this with the forge BPV, the forge BOV is almost as loud as my buddies HKS. All you need is a tune with it.
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If you want the BOV sound get the forge atmospheric BOV, please dont mistaken this with the forge BPV, the forge BOV is almost as loud as my buddies HKS. All you need is a tune with it.
can the forge atmospheric be ran with a select a tune trifecta or does it need to be the ECP trifecta still?
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Originally Posted by BlackARCA06
If you want the BOV sound get the forge atmospheric BOV, please dont mistaken this with the forge BPV, the forge BOV is almost as loud as my buddies HKS. All you need is a tune with it.
I still have your forge bpv but going trifecta in the next couple weeks and but I would like the atmospheric one in for tuning by then
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
can the forge atmospheric be ran with a select a tune trifecta or does it need to be the ECP trifecta still?
ECP Tune. Love this thing, no comparison to the intake+forge bpv...its 10 times louder.
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whats the difference in both? I was looking at grabbing the select a tune
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Originally Posted by joshsal123
I just bought a zfr and full bolt ons and I bought a bov can I not use it without more parts


you need a flange welded onto the pipenand a maf relocation unless it is already....but you dont need it at all
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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i have a zzp bov and its amazing. the sound of the pressure release is amazing.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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I'm running an HKS SSQV in line with the stock BPV. Quite normally, loud and sounds good when I want haha. The car didn't like WOT shifts until I got the ECP tune, now it's great.

Fair warning, you will get some loud exhaust pops with the ECP tune, almost backfire loud.

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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
whats the difference in both? I was looking at grabbing the select a tune
Idk, somethin to do with the maf. ECP is another name for speed density tune. Just wont work with a normal tune...youll have to email vince for details.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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yeah i have the ECP for my RFL BOV and checked my LTFT and it it around 10.9 , and he said there is nothing he can do about it. so im going back to a MAP based tune.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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I have the Forge VTA BPV with HP tune no Maf relocate. the only "Problem" is the car goes rich when it blows off but I havent gotten a CEL or anything since having it on for over 6 months
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can the forge atmospheric be ran with a select a tune trifecta or does it need to be the ECP trifecta still?
Ecp tune can be select a tune. I have a copy of it and it works the same way as normal tune
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Originally Posted by Kyle09TC
yeah i have the ECP for my RFL BOV and checked my LTFT and it it around 10.9 , and he said there is nothing he can do about it. so im going back to a MAP based tune.
Mine was in the -8 range, said same thing, said ur ltft will change with every fill up, idk y he don't wanna bother with fixing em . But in the summer now my ltft went from a winter 8 to like 3 so ya they do change with weather so what's the point in tuning them down all the time
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My LTFT sits around 5-6, I'm not worried.
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im tuned with a TiAL Q - works GREAT!
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