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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Talking Chevycobaltss3 + E47 = I Need A New Clutch

This all started last summer when I got my ass handed to me by a "lightly" modded Evo9 on GMS1...

Cobalt SS Turbo GMS1 vs Evo 9 - YouTube

I HATE losing. Especially to a car that didn't seem all that fast. Not long after that race, I got into ANOTHER losing battle against a mildly modded 2010 Lancer Ralliart. He too beat me and at that point I decided that I wanted to do some mods and get HP Tuned.

Well, to speed this story up, I did some research and had heard good things about a few different tuners (BYT, Area47 and Chevycobaltss3 (James)). I really didn't want to be email tuned where it would basically be one or MAYBE two emails a day with revisions. I wanted someone that would tune me live and so James ended up being my guy. I spoke to him over the phone, told him what I wanted and we were on our way. He tuned me on GMS1 w/ catless DP and AirBox mod. I was happy but I knew I wanted more. I didn't get a chance to dyno this setup unfortunately.

My birthday and Christmas rolls by and I end up with some extra cash. I knew I wanted an intercooler, charge pipe and an intake so I purchased those things and installed them during my vacation from work. Once installed, James did a revision. Lemme just say, James YOU ARE ****! (I think he likes **** too... LOL!) He had me logging for 2 days straight ~8hrs a day. He wanted it to be PERFECT. Can't say enough about how dedicated James is to making the tune you ask for absolutely perfect. I really didn't want anything too aggressive. Just a nice mild tune until I could make the switch to E.

I decided to get a dyno appointment scheduled at the local shop. Turns out their dyno setup is sub par but I didn't realize this until it was too late. They only had ONE fan for the car and it was a serious P.O.S. So on a conservative tune with a super heat soaked engine, I made 318whp 350wtq. No too bad for a conservative tune!

Cobalt SS Turbo Dyno Conservative Tune - YouTube

Cobalt SS Dyno Conservative Tune - YouTube

Notice the waviness at the end of the pull. Stupid heat soak was causing LOTS of knock...





I was pretty happy with these results given the situation. I don't think James was though... He made me log MORE... After a couple hours of logging, I happened upon a very wonderful thing...



I was all... James said, "Lets do E47." Sweeter words have never been spoken...

Immediately he sends me a base E47 file. This is a very raw, non fine tuned file that I loaded up and flashed to the car. Well after a few minutes of driving with the E mix, even this raw file was NIGHT AND DAY from the 93 octane tune. I could not believe how much of a difference it was. After another handful of hours (we were up 'til like 3am his time) the car just kept feeling stronger and faster. It felt like I gained at least 30 whp. Well I wasn't too far off...

Today, I decided to take the car up to New Berlin, WI to King Motorsports. VERY nice shop. Very clean and very professional. We *attempted* to dyno the car. James' E47 tune had the car making so much torque, the clutch just slipped the entire time so I could only get a WHP number...



Even so... YEEHAWW!! I was VERY pleased with this number and I know there is still more to be had once I get a new clutch. So a WARNING to you all out there, if you let James tune you on E47, you WILL need a new clutch!!! I happened to see the dood in the Ralliart the other day and lets just say, he saw my tail lights quite a bit.

I was not able to take video at King Motorsports due to "insurance" reasons... But its all good, it basically sat on the rollers the entire time b/c we tried to get the clutch to cool off. Haha!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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lol glad it all worked out for you, I've been working with James for a while now. I've never met anyone as helpful as him.


nice numbers tho furreel.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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nice numbers man. glad to see your happy. james has been helping my buddy and i out with tuning my car too lol. very helpful person. props to him for helping so many people!!!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah, this is why me and James had to stop tuning mine, clutch wasn't having it.

What was the boost. And timing when you dynoed 355?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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spike of 25psi, held 24. 24* as well
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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nice...james is the man...lol
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
spike of 25psi, held 24. 24* as well
Woah, how did you know that?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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This is his basic setup. Tune wise.

Make sure you read it all to understand what I did his setup this way.

He's on ethanol so therefore the cooling effects and ect help with a good ramping boost. I made his boost ramp very linear and I didn't make it steep meaning just 0lbs to a straight commanded boost at wot. His boost is set to a ramping 25spik to a steady 24. I had his wot fueling at .88 and in mid range at .89-.93 . I had his timing at 24* and mid range 18-19* and tamper it to hit 24* steady. Ops maf lbs were 41-42lbs and ve was 35-37lbs. Somthing op learned was keeping the correct blend. I stayed up and I revised his tune so much because well it was remotely done but also I'm very **** about what was asked of me. So I do my best.

Thanks bro for the kind words. I appreciated them....
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Mark and I talked about it lol along with me and a few others... People were wanting e and wanting.to know why they should go with it.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Great to hear! Can't wait to get off my gm stage 1 tune .. spring needs to come ASAP
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Wow, that curve is awfully smooth, and 355 whp? Damn son.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Once clutch is done is like to give it more timing and get a better dyno. Hahaha clutches . Boom
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Woah, how did you know that?
apparently i'm the god of cobalts.. don't you know?? i hear everything..


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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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Good results!!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
apparently i'm the god of cobalts.. don't you know?? i hear everything..


Can you hear THIS?!?!

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Very nice. Makes me wish that E was easier to come by around where I live and drive....
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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Where's my haters? Damnit I like good conversation.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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So when we doing the clutch?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Do mine too.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
So when we doing the clutch?
Tax return FTW!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Looks like ill be switching to E soon
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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David I tried last time when I was down there.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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You didn't have enough time because you were going to tune Gary but u ended up not doing it lol
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Garys car =: fail that day Lol
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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Same issue here (different tuner though). As soon as I switched to the corn, the stock clutch wouldn't hold for ****. Installed the Hypersingle and now enjoy every bit of the wonderful power of E85
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