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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Ok I need to get opinions, thoughts on what your perfect clutch would be. The company that is looking to build clutch's for the tc is wanting to know what we want. They can have a clutch on the market in as little as 2 weeks. Anything from a stock reused flywheel to a billit flywheel, and multiple torque capacities from 400-700ftlbs. There main things is getting opinions of the flywheel, so I am asking who would get the aluminium flywheel. The top of the line clutch would run us about 1300 and about 800 for just the clutch. I need thoughts opionions, everyone that looks at this thread please leave info, also if you would be interested in the clutch. This will be the last clutch you sould need for your car. This company will not dissapoint. I promise.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Ok I need to get opinions, thoughts on what your perfect clutch would be. The company that is looking to build clutch's for the tc is wanting to know what we want. They can have a clutch on the market in as little as 2 weeks. Anything from a stock reused flywheel to a billit flywheel, and multiple torque capacities from 400-700ftlbs. There main things is getting opinions of the flywheel, so I am asking who would get the aluminium flywheel. The top of the line clutch would run us about 1300 and about 800 for just the clutch. I need thoughts opionions, everyone that looks at this thread please leave info, also if you would be interested in the clutch. This will be the last clutch you sould need for your car. This company will not dissapoint. I promise.
No puck clutchs because of the brutal engagement they have. I would like a clutch similar to the Spec Stage 3+ but that can reuse without any modifications the stock flywheel. So a full face clutch kit that reuses the stock flywheel and has at least a 500 ftlb holding capacity.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Term read my mind. Looking for a disk clutch, stock flywheel, and 500-600 ftlb capacity, with stock like engagement FEEL (not worried bout pedal pressure). Thats my ideal clutch. I know thats not always going to happen. I think for the stock turbo guys, that have no intentions of upgrading, a 400 ftlb cap would be perfect, if they offer it at a lesser price than Spec 3+.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Both guys before me are right. Also, keeping it affordable (ie no billet flywheel) is a plus, after all we all own cobalts.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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See I was thinking a billit lightweight wheel would be better for high trq cars. Why do you guys want the stock wheel? Like reasons or just cost?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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When more people start to need a clutch more responses may appear.
I woul dbe interested but not for some time.......something that is streetable for daily use but can grip like a bitch and not slip....
I dont know what we want but too racey wont work for everyone like myself but we all want a badass one right!
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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What's a spec 3+ run?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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I'm thinking it's more along the lines of cost issues. A billit flywheel would be freakin great, but now you just jacked the hell out of the price. $1300 plus the labor for the install is a little much for the average cobalt driver I'm thinking.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
See I was thinking a billit lightweight wheel would be better for high trq cars. Why do you guys want the stock wheel? Like reasons or just cost?
To put more torque down, you need the heavier flywheel, IIRC. But for higher horse apps aluminum is better. Again, IIRC. Also, the reason I would prefer stock is to actually slow the engine down. If it winds up too fast, its just going to hurt traction all the more. I put an aluminum flywheel in my 350Z when I had it. All stock everything else, and it would actually burn the tires after the install.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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^^^^^^ I will agre with this fella
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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That's not the final cost, it maybe less. The lower torque capacities will prolly be cheaper but you get what you pay for. I personally have not had good luck with spec but others love them. I know I would pay for the billit wheel but that's me. They won't make a billit one unless they have a big interest which I don't think there is. But keep the comments coming more the better and will help them decided

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To put more torque down, you need the heavier flywheel, IIRC. But for higher horse apps aluminum is better. Again, IIRC. Also, the reason I would prefer stock is to actually slow the engine down. If it winds up too fast, its just going to hurt traction all the more. I put an aluminum flywheel in my 350Z when I had it. All stock everything else, and it would actually burn the tires after the install.
good to know and will check about that

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006

good to know and will check about that
If i wasn't just getting up to go to dinner, I would check my theories, but I think that is right. I know it will hurt our traction though, because you will be putting down about 10 more horses to the ground.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Matt, I want a 500 ft/lb clutch on the stock flywheel, no mods to it. Would like my daughter to still be able to drive it.

Does the spec 3+ have to have flywheel work? I've never done a FWD clutch, whatchu guys cookin' over there?

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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I would love to see a reasonably priced clutch $450-600 range that could handle a bit more torque than the stocker, say 350-400ft/lbs but is perfectly liveable on the street. For those of us that are bolted and mildly tuned.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
Matt, I want a 500 ft/lb clutch on the stock flywheel, no mods to it. Would like my daughter to still be able to drive it.

Does the spec 3+ have to have flywheel work? I've never done a FWD clutch, whatchu guys cookin' over there?

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Well, every time you replace the clutch, you need the flywheel resurfaced, no questions asked.

And if you are asking if we'll do a clutch install, most certainly, lol. We are going to do a Exedy Hyper Single for BartSS's HHR here in the next month or so.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
I would love to see a reasonably priced clutch $450-600 range that could handle a bit more torque than the stocker, say 350-400ft/lbs but is perfectly liveable on the street. For those of us that are bolted and mildly tuned.
Ditto
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tom.g
I would love to see a reasonably priced clutch $450-600 range that could handle a bit more torque than the stocker, say 350-400ft/lbs but is perfectly liveable on the street. For those of us that are bolted and mildly tuned.
this is what i was trying to say but i was rambling earlier.....
have some good feebcak for the street but ***** enough for 400 - 450 trq
and 300 to 380 hp range
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Ok well I am going to let them know tomarrow, and see what kind of things we can get done for a decent price. And yes everytime you replace a clutch you need to resurface the flywheel. What needs to be done to the stock wheel right now to reuse it?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Nothing should need to be done to it, except the resurfacing.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Nothing should need to be done except the resurfacing.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mkriebs
Nothing should need to be done except the resurfacing.
Right, my question is, What needs to be done to use stock flywheel and use a spec? Wasnt there some sort drilling that has to be done?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Right, my question is, What needs to be done to use stock flywheel and use a spec? Wasnt there some sort drilling that has to be done?
Oh, I am not sure to be honest.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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The holes for the dowls need to be made a bit larger for the spec3+. Whoever resurfaces your flywheel should be able to do it.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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it will actually cost you about the same if not a little more to get the stock flywheel resurfaced and drilled to fit the new clutch. Just to let you know (about $300-$400)
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackMamba08
it will actually cost you about the same if not a little more to get the stock flywheel resurfaced and drilled to fit the new clutch. Just to let you know (about $300-$400)
Haha, where did you get your prices? I just checked last summer to get a flywheel resurfaced, and it was $40.
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