Originally Posted by northvibe (Post 4191144)

an intake does not void the warranty unless that is found to be the cause of the issue I would bring the car in for. GM JUST stated again if they find a aftermarket tune used it voids the cars warranty. Also if you see how easy it is to access the intake and turbo, swapping to a stock air box is what 15 min? then bring it to a dealer.

I ordered the stage 1 kit so that will disable the learn down feature, thus being able to use bolt ons.

Again this is a LNF not a lsj they are much different engines. That imo is why all the intakes currently are crap. No one has developed the proper intake with DI/its maf in mind. Go look at my CP-E thread and look at their MS3/MS6/cx7 sri. not only does it have the MAF in a spot to allow a straight airflow it has a air straightener. If you do your research, that was the main issue on the ms3 intakes causing cel's and mess up a/f's on even the Mazdaspeed intake along with AEM's (same intake) and a couple other brands. This isnt just a throw a pipe on a car with a filter and if it doesnt throw a code after 2 months, produce it. This needs serious R&D done. After having CP-e's intakes tested on ms3's there were no a/f issues or cel's, nothing. Again proper intake is needed and none fit the bill imo.

Originally Posted by Eddie (Post 4193048)

i'll refere u to member above with injen and 5k miles and no codes. the fact is plain and simple, u mod ur car u expect codes no matter what, thats where tuning comes into place. sorry if gm wants to void warranty over a tune, they'll void warranty over an intake, they'll find a way. plus it all depends on how anal ur dealer is.

Originally Posted by Eddie (Post 4193048)

i'll refere u to member above with injen and 5k miles and no codes. the fact is plain and simple, u mod ur car u expect codes no matter what, thats where tuning comes into place. sorry if gm wants to void warranty over a tune, they'll void warranty over an intake, they'll find a way. plus it all depends on how anal ur dealer is.

Originally Posted by cp-e.com

We actually made a name for ourselves selling our XCel line of intakes. The "XCel" name literally means no CEL, and we could guarantee this to people because we carefully designed and manufactured the mass air sensor housings from billet aluminum, as opposed to just using extruded aluminum pipe like most manufacturers do. Like the exhaust stuff, this would be an easy start for us and we'd guarantee no CELs from our intake.

Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 4192769)

I also dyno'd before and after with my Injen and lost torque across the board and low/mid hp.

Originally Posted by Rownan (Post 4193195)

How much of a loss? How much HP on the top end was gained?

Originally Posted by 2FST4U (Post 4193228)

The Dejon SRI is wacked on my TC. Stock MAF was running Rich with rough idle. Changed MAF with brand new now it shows Lean with rough idle. I am also looking for a new intake but dont know what to go with.

Originally Posted by northvibe (Post 4191347)

AEM did not change their intake, they just added a air straightener to the intake, ie. a drop in air straightener. the MS cai and AEM were exactly the same unit. The factory ms3 airbox did have a straightener. Well obviously the current inakes are throwing goofy numbers so there is something not right. Its not just the straightener, when I talked to cpe they also mentioned how and where the MAF is positioned inside the intake.

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193309)

What's keeping us from just fabricating/popping in an air straightener for our intakes?

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193309)

What's keeping us from just fabricating/popping in an air straightener for our intakes?

Originally Posted by northvibe (Post 4193154)

Look at CP-E's intake statement :


Also I will restate what I have said before. Just because it does not throw a cel does NOT mean it is working properly. The a/f ratio can still be way out of whack. This is exactly what is happening with CIA's sri.

The warranty voiding...do you know how the warranty works? have you yourself read the fine print? They can not void over a intake unless that was caused the problem and they can prove it. A tune like HPTuners is technically "hacking" the ecu to get around the current security on it. Its just like hacking a xbox or wii. Yes it can be done, yes it works, but it breaks the warranty.

Originally Posted by Terminator2 (Post 4193412)

I would like one for my intake. Know where you can get one for a 3.25" OD intake.

Originally Posted by Eddie (Post 4193517)

ok, u said it ur self, umm just cuz theres no cel doesnt mean its working properly. even if CP-E makes one that doesnt throw a CEL, doesnt mean it will work properly because of THE LEARN DOWN FEATURE. so gains will be non exsistant after a while.

and yes do know how waranty works. and u should know that gm or any manufacture will come up with n e thing and everything trying to void a warranty even with a K&N replacement filter. hell if u dont change ur blinker fluid they'll void it. (sarcasm) gm will try and void the power train warranty if theres any aftermarket product on the vehicle. and yes i'm fully aware of the magnuson moss act. it doesnt mean that they still wont try and void it.

Originally Posted by Terminator2 (Post 4193412)

I would like one for my intake. Know where you can get one for a 3.25" OD intake.

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193625)

Well, I did some searching and found this AEM one: http://www.jscspeed.com/mazdaspeed3/...raightener.htm

I couldn't find the diameter though.

Edit: Maybe we could just ask AEM to fab one that fits their intake kit. Seems simple enough.

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193625)

Well, I did some searching and found this AEM one: http://www.jscspeed.com/mazdaspeed3/...raightener.htm

I couldn't find the diameter though.

Edit: Maybe we could just ask AEM to fab one that fits their intake kit. Seems simple enough.

Originally Posted by northvibe (Post 4193650)

by the time cp-e makes a intake the stage kit will be out, the learn down feature is not a problem. cpe would never release an intake if they couldnt find a proper solution to why the a/f's are messed up.

The warranty anal'ness is usually based on dealer to dealer. So maybe you had a bad experience but there are plenty of dealers that dont care about parts unless they are suspicious it caused the error. I know they try to void it, not sure why as they get paid to fix it..unless they think they can make more money off you if its not under warranty, but say a sri. Thats a 15 min job to install or remove. I had my ms3 in the dealer a handful of times for random stuff and would just put my stock air box back in. I dont take the chance of them blaming that for anything. The point I was making was a intake wouldnt be as suspicious as a tune.

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193625)

Well, I did some searching and found this AEM one: http://www.jscspeed.com/mazdaspeed3/...raightener.htm

I couldn't find the diameter though.

Edit: Maybe we could just ask AEM to fab one that fits their intake kit. Seems simple enough.

Originally Posted by Terminator2 (Post 4193753)

Our MAF has a similar design to that it has an inlet of the air then it flows over the sensor itself I dunno if that would help or not. The was thinking more of a honeycomb screen.

Originally Posted by Stamina (Post 4193764)

Like that?

http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/images/HC.125-3.jpg