Cryogenic intake system I'm Thinking about getting that done cause i really don't wanna run any nitrous at least for the present time how do you think that's gonna do for my turbo bolt?

 

More info please. We offer cryogenic tempering but it's a process not a product. What exactly are you referring to?

 

ball sack

 

It's an intake system i saw this guy had at a meet i went too this weekend and he was telling me about how it sprays co2 into the intake and it lowers the temp of the air coming in by about 50 degrees he said its a lot safer than nitrous so i figured it was something too look into.

 

he was probably talking about a cry02 kit...not cryogenic

 

lol i guess so i dont know why the hell he told me cryogenic then so what do you think about that?

 

Yeah its the cry02 kit. Someone on this site has one but I don't know if it would even be that beneficial. I need to see some dyno #'s to sway my opinion.

 

He wasn't spraying INTO the intake. He was spraying ONTO the intercooler. CO2 is very cold, as you probably know, and spraying ONTO the IC lowers the temperature on the incoming air. I'd damn sure want to see it work, or see some numbers, before I'd lay down my hard earned money.

Kits are also available to cool the fuel through a heat exchanger.

http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sc&cid=1

 

meth be better

 

no he is talking about BillBt i think. there is one that sprays onto the intercooler and into the intake. i just dont see how it would make power though.

 

Study this a little and then tell me how it works INSIDE an engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

You stand a better chance of blowing the engine sky high than increasing it's output power.

 

i know how it works. i just don't understand how the cry02 company can say it would make power. they put co2 inside of fire extinguishers to help put out fires. lol

 

CO2 boils at -87C and becomes a gas. The gas cools everything around it. The CO2 DOESN'T MIX with either the air or the fuel. It, supposedly, cools the incoming charge and the incoming fuel. Remember! Cold air and/or fuel are most dense than warm. Like I say. Make sure it does what it says it does before giving anybody any money. Or at least see some dyno graphs from a trusted sourse.

 

even if it doesn't mix with the fuel or air, it is still an inert gas just taking up space in the cylinder. i just dont see how it would ever make power going into the engine. i would like to see some dyno's as well. ZZP said they lost 40hp on a car with it but you said trusted source.

 

I don't know what part of what I'm saying that you don't understand. The Co2 DOESN'T MIX with the fuel or the air. It just COOLS them through a heat exchanger (just like an intercooler) BEFORE the fuel and air enter the engine.

I just spotted your icon. Maybe you do understand after all.

 

http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=4

this is what the OP is referring too. i see now that it actually does not go inside the engine, rather that it cools this tube that is placed in line with the intake path

 

Actually, understanding the principles of what it takes to make an internal combustion engine run, it DOES sound reasonable that this would work. I still want proof.

There you go. Now you got it.

 

I doubt the effectiveness of that. They are basically creating a heat exchanger, but with very low surface area. Intercoolers have a ton of surface area and small passages because to cool a fluid you need to slow it down and have it close to the colder surface. This mounts in the intake stream with a smooth 'aerodynamic' bulb which goes against the principles of a heat exchanger.

Snake oil, don't buy it.

 

In all fairness and with all due respect this outfit does make 3 different kits. One inline, one for the IC and one for the fuel. And they're not shy in the least to charge a hell of a lot for each one. Hell! With all that Co2 under the hood you'd think the whole engine would freeze solid.

 

I'd be a believer in the intercooler spray kits before that little tube. I think the major selling point of doing something like that would be consistency - especially if you were on a road course or bracket racing. If you can limit the effects of heat soak by spraying the intercooler down with CO2, that'll help eliminate one more variable in the car's performance.

Now, my question would be - how much extra weight are you carrying with a CO2 tank and all the hardware? Is that extra weight going to be worth it?

 

I really don't think this thng is meant for continous use. I think it would more like 1/4 mile and recharge, 1/4 mile and recharge, and so on a and so on. Otherwise you'd need to pull a 9000 tanker around behind you.

 

Yeah I agree. I would say just use it at the track or something.

 

IF IT WORKS! I don't think it will help at all. It could probably be proven, one way or the other, mathematically. If somebody but me did the math. It just seems the iar is traveling too fast to cool enough to make a difference. But seeing is believeing.

 

The kits I mentioned are usually hooked up to a WOT switch IIRC. It doesn't run continuously....just when you're floored - kinda like N2O.

 

I can tell you one thing, these DI LNF engines like it when it's warmer not cooler, direct injection combusts better in hi-temps so cooling it off would not have any effect...

Non-direct injected engines will really wake up from Meth and CRY02 products but not the DI LNF......



If you want to look into this more goto: designengineering.com........ goto products and scroll down to CRY02 products.......