EFR turbo help, pcv hose question
EFR turbo help, pcv hose question
so after installing my efr i have a hose that goes from the valve cover to the factory turbo just dangling doing nothing... do i need to do something with that? i been having problems with the car for a while and dont know if that has anything to do with anything. it sucks in air and dont know if it needs to be rerouted somewere. any help?
Since the air goes to it from the intake, after the MAF, it is therefore metered air. If you then have a way for that air to escape back out (the other hose on the back) without reintroducing it back into the intake airflow, you have created yourself a vacuum leak. The air is metered and then disappears as far as the ECU knows, and the car then runs rich and the fuel trims must attempt to correct for it.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
Since the air goes to it from the intake, after the MAF, it is therefore metered air. If you then have a way for that air to escape back out (the other hose on the back) without reintroducing it back into the intake airflow, you have created yourself a vacuum leak. The air is metered and then disappears as far as the ECU knows, and the car then runs rich and the fuel trims must attempt to correct for it.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
Since the air goes to it from the intake, after the MAF, it is therefore metered air. If you then have a way for that air to escape back out (the other hose on the back) without reintroducing it back into the intake airflow, you have created yourself a vacuum leak. The air is metered and then disappears as far as the ECU knows, and the car then runs rich and the fuel trims must attempt to correct for it.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
You need to pipe the back hose back into the intake, like it used to be when it was on the stock turbo. You could possibly plug it / cap it, but I'd have to think about that one.
Metered air leaking = vacuum leak, just like a boost leak is considered a type of vacuum leak. In both cases you have air that's been accounted for leaving the system that the ECU thinks should be there.
Tuning for it is a bit of a bandaid though. I was just trying to explain the proper way to fix the issue. The air for the PCV is most definitely metered. Check out where the PCV is in relation to the MAF. The air going in there is accounted for at the MAF, and then ECU isn't seeing it show up on the scene like it's supposed to because it snuck out the back door.
Metered air leaking = vacuum leak, just like a boost leak is considered a type of vacuum leak. In both cases you have air that's been accounted for leaving the system that the ECU thinks should be there.
Metered air leaking = vacuum leak, just like a boost leak is considered a type of vacuum leak. In both cases you have air that's been accounted for leaving the system that the ECU thinks should be there.
that makes perfect sense to me sir, thanks.... ill have a shop around here put a nipple (yea i said nipple) on my intake and connect that to the hose if possible and hopefully that fix my problem then off to retune my baby and make some decent power . Thanks for the help guys 

Tuning for it is a bit of a bandaid though. I was just trying to explain the proper way to fix the issue. The air for the PCV is most definitely metered. Check out where the PCV is in relation to the MAF. The air going in there is accounted for at the MAF, and then ECU isn't seeing it show up on the scene like it's supposed to because it snuck out the back door.
Metered air leaking = vacuum leak, just like a boost leak is considered a type of vacuum leak. In both cases you have air that's been accounted for leaving the system that the ECU thinks should be there.
Metered air leaking = vacuum leak, just like a boost leak is considered a type of vacuum leak. In both cases you have air that's been accounted for leaving the system that the ECU thinks should be there.

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Last edited by Stamina; Jul 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM.
Yes, you actually made sense that time, lol. Somewhere along the lines previously you said air would exit the intake system which had me confused. Yeah, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work like that. What kind of intake does the op have though? Is his elbow to the turbo all silicone? If so he may need fitting of some type that can clamp down onto the elbow itself after a hole is cut.
Yes, you actually made sense that time, lol. Somewhere along the lines previously you said air would exit the intake system which had me confused. Yeah, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work like that. What kind of intake does the op have though? Is his elbow to the turbo all silicone? If so he may need fitting of some type that can clamp down onto the elbow itself after a hole is cut.
This was a topic I brought up a few months ago...
So I've got an unrelated yet related question. lol
I assume since these turbos were made with the general aftermarket in mind, that they don't have anything like the valve cover breather line hookup on them. What are people (ZZP in this case) doing or planning on doing to properly ventilate the engine with this turbo?
I assume since these turbos were made with the general aftermarket in mind, that they don't have anything like the valve cover breather line hookup on them. What are people (ZZP in this case) doing or planning on doing to properly ventilate the engine with this turbo?
This is the solution one member came up with:
What I did was had a 1/4" bung welded to my intake and used a 1/4" npt to 3/8" barb and ran 3/8" hose from that vent to the intake. Works just fine. Lemme see if I can find the photo...
The smaller one is the bung I'm talking about. The larger one is a 1" npt bung for my BOV recirc.

The smaller one is the bung I'm talking about. The larger one is a 1" npt bung for my BOV recirc.

PS, can you PM me your number. I really needed your help yesterday as you have a month more EFR experience than me! LIOL





