Ok so Im getting my income tax back this week and also a bonus from my job so that being said my car should be very close to %100 done in about a month. Right now Ive got dejon SRI megan downpipe, mpx catback w. muffler delete, forge bpv and a superchips reflash. The mods that I plan on doing now are intercooler and piping, methanol, e85, and a HPtuners tune. What do you guys think will be my WHP will be after its done with full bolt ons and methanol and e85 and of course a tune. Im thinking about 24-25psi.

And also does anyone know whats up with BYT cause thats where I would like to get it tuned

 

Your clutch will hold you back.

 

oh i forgot to mention I have a KY stage 3 clutch lol

 

Depending on the dyno you should be somewhere between 330-350ish whp.

 

If you have a clutch that can hold the power 350 whp likely and 400 ft/lbs.

 

Boom, there are a lot of thread on numbers bro. Average on power is 340-360whp. For e...

 

A 360whp average is a tad optomistic imo but it is possible as long as you have a happy dyno to support it..

 

lol.... I said average numbers are 340-360. Which in fact is true.... If you know what ure doing you can in fact obtain 360+ .. with a good tune of course and e .. I've done it quite a bit, term has, gmtech has, and ect.. in fact lazaro made 350whp on just the base I sent him.. and its not a happy dyno lol.... And remember its just a base. .

 

I'm not attacking you or saying your wrong man so relax.. lol.. I'm just going off what I've seen in my personal experiences from with my car and other very reputable tuners logs and dyno numbers.

How much air flow are you seeing on average with these setups just out of curiousity? I haven't seen much more than 37lbs/min in any of the logs I've seen so just by flow numbers alone 360whp is pretty optomistic. 350whp is definitely doable though.. again, depending on the dyno. Heartbreakers tend to make in the neighborhood of 330whp with 37+lbs/min of flow

 

if id be u id tune it to 22 03 23 psi, i flashed mine with 22 and 24 and i went back to 22 cause 24 is no different, stock turbo is out of efficency over 22 - 23 and 24 or 25 is pointless. produces alot of heat and really all ur doing is working the turbo hard for no reason. save some life on it, keep ur boost lower.

 

I was actually flowing 40lbs/min and put down 355whp and then we made some changes to the tune. Now I flow less and made more, 362whp (4th gear).

I think the car is running more efficiently now. Lbs/min can't be the tell all.

 

Yep, we did less Lbs of boost along with more midrange and I changed a few more things like (even a slower ramp)

 

BYT is not on the forum anymore, he is just tired of it. If you want to reach him hit up his website and send a request through there.

 

Lbs/min can tell you quite a bit though. 40lbs/min on a much larger turbo than stock and you made 355whp. 40lbs/min of air is about 571cfm, which will support about 380bhp. Even if I only subtract 10% for drivetrain loss that is roughly 342whp. Even with your 362whp run I'm sure you still made no less that 38-39lbs/min. That's even pushing things to be honest though. 38lbs/min works out to be about 542cfm. 542cfm doesn't support much more than 362bhp so the fact that you made 362whp is kind of on the high side of things, bit it obviously happened because I'm sure you have the dyno sheet to show it.

Again, I'm not saying that anyone is wrong with what they saw on the dyno. I'm just pointing out that 360whp on the stock turbo flowing 37-38lbs/min or so with ethanol is a bit iffy unless you have a dyno that will support the numbers for you.

 

He dynoed twice at the same spot.. first 355whp on 24lbs spike 25 and did again with my revisions and less boost and made the 362 and less maf and less ve. I changed cam tables and I also changed timing quite a bit..

 

I think I would be happy with 350whp anything over that would still be awesome though lol and also since I have the superchips tune right now would I need to flash it back to stock before getting hptuners or not?

 

If you plan on reselling the superchips tuner then yes you have to flash it back to stock. As far as hpt flashing over the superchips tune, there is no issue.

 

Meth, and E?

 

Reading between the lines it sounds like you're calling me a liar or saying I didn't make what I made. Yes we do have a dyno sheet.

What did you put down?

 

Don't read between the lines then.. lol

I'm far from calling anyone a liar. I was just simply saying that you have a larger turbo that flows far more than the stocker so naturally you are going to make more hp. The flow numbers corresponding with whp however are the only thing I was trying to point out in my original reply. With the stock turbo it will be pretty difficult to reach 360whp unless you have a higher reading dyno to support the numbers.

No one is calling anyone a liar nor am I attacking anyones tuning abilities. I'm just simply pointing out a few things that mathematically don't support the whp especially for the stock turbo.... unless the dyno reads a tad high..

 

I don't have a larger turbo. It's the stock turbo. Where did you get that idea?

 

First thing is he's running e47, and I've been able to get people on a very aggressive gas tune up to 353, 28lbs and 19* ... And my average for a fully bolted car is 315-330ish depending on type of tune so add ethanol and you can easily obtain more power with the right tune....... The dyno isnt reading high, if that was so the whole top of the dyno numbers for the ko4 on this site would be high. Which in fact they aren't. Another thing is the races he wins...

 

Oh no ****.. lol..

I thought you had a build at one point for some reason. Well **** then.... 40lbs/min on the stock turbo huh? :::eats his words with this one:::: Good ****....

That's sorta what I was asking in post 9 but no one ever really corrected me on the fact that you still had the stock turbo later on in the thread..

 

omg dyno's are tuning devices numbers are going to vary from car to car, you could have the same car dyno on two dynojets and it won't make the same numbers. But as far as reaching nick (byt) his website or the byt facebook are the best ways to reach him

 

Yes I' very aware of this. That wasn't the point of my posts. I was originally asking ccss3 a question but it got misconstrued and minor misunderstand and a bit of chaos ensued..

Can't a man make a mistake damnit?! Lol