will a ground kit make a difference on our cars??? cuz i have a friend that has ground kit on a 370z and it helped him a lot... will it help us in any performance??

 

a body kit can not add performance if thats what ur asking

 

he's talkin about a wiring ground kit, not a ground effects kit

 

^^^^ yeap... not body kit

 

i have a ground kit on my car and i like it and when i first put it on i did notice a difference...

 

ground kit?? that's a new one for me. how could it improve performance? *sigh* gonna give google a workout again I guess.

 

yeah what is this gonna do? all youre upgrading is the gauge of the wire...

 

ive heard that it does and that it doesnt...so not sure if its true or not...

 

I seriously doubt it, the injector drivers run at 65volts, there's no room for a bad ground on the lnf from the factory.

 

click , something new

 

Just out of curiousity how do you define "ground kit"?

Every car that uses a battery to power the electrical systems on a car has a ground which can be defined as a connection from the (in our case) the negative (black) terminal of the battery to the cars electrical systems via the chassis, body and frame which are all mechanically connected. Normally, on a metalic body'd car, ground will connect the negative side to any portion of the car, its electrical, engine, lights and anything else that uses that battery to make it work. A single POSITIVE (normally red) wire is routed through the car, its switches and electrical components with a single wire which eventually goes back the the batteries POSITIVE terminal. The battery negative goes straight to the frame, engine, body and everything made of metal that that makes metal to metal connection to any of those parts A ground that is capable of carrying enough current to start and run the engine and all of the electrical systems is more than sufficient.
If the ground on the car is capable of handling enough current to turn the starter and start the car will be.

The reason I said "in our case" is because years ago Chrysler used a POSITIVE ground system. It worked the same way but everything was designed to operate with the positive cable to ground and the NEGATIVE cable to all the electrical systems, the frame, engine and so forth. To put it simply ass backwards.

I still would like to know what a "ground kit" consists of.

 

Installing a grounding kit is a safe and reliable way of creating a low resistance ground path for your car. The kit provides direct ground paths from battery negative to body, chassis, and specific engine components to give a noticeable improvement in electrical circulation. Reduced electrical noise can improve ECU signals and throttle response resulting in better performance and reduction in flat spots, and many more benefits associated with improved grounding.

 

i've seen these kits before, and i think its a placebo type of thing. However a bad ground can cause lots of problems, but as far as im concerned, the factory ground off the battery is just fine.

 

i like my grounding kit it was one of my first mods...

 

Grounding kits are a waste of money. It's just a bunch of fancy, expensive, large gauge wire and gold plated terminals. It's just another one of those products marketed as something else when the actual intention of it is to provide teenagers with something colorful and flashy that they can install in the engine bay.

 

mine is actual hidden very well and it does help and they do work and they are not that expensive i would recommend a grounding kit...

 

pics?

 

i made my own for 10$ following the instructions on a website for altimas...it did absolutly nothing but it does look cool

 

you see mixed results...some say they work some say they dont...how do they work?

is there a test that one can do to see what the results are after installing these? u know to see improvements?

how do we know its not just a placebo feeling?

i want to see facts of this thing actually working....

do i gain hp perfromance or electrical performance?

there are lots of questions about doing this...does anyone have the answers?

 

Being an Electronic Engineering Tech for the last 15 years, I don't see what it is that you guys think is "working." If your ground is insufficient for the application, you get too much current demand through that ground and it gets hot and burns up. If your grounding is sufficient for your application, using more grounding won't make your circuit any more efficient. I don't know if you think there is more current flow or what this "electrical circulation" is that ls_14 is speaking of. It sounds like some jargon downloaded directly off the manufacturers site. I think it's all bullshit, but spend your money how you want. It's just my E-opinion.

 

I had a nice ground kit on my vibe and ms3. Its NOT for hp!! New cars have much better ground than the old cars it may of done that too. The best way is to have a star off the battery negative and so the "perfect ground" is used. If its daisy chained, kinda like stock, it wont be near 0v and can fluctuate greatly actually. The ground on the opposite side of your car can be higher than the side near the battery. Caused by all sorts of interferrance.

After my install I noticed the headlights wouldnt dim as much while rolling the windows up. Since the ms3's TB was drive by wire it also helped some on how responsive it was. It was minimal but there was a slight difference (had the TB ground directly to the battery). So yes it will do a tiny bit but not gain you this HP and you'll beat a ferrari or anything.

 

ground kit will become useful 3-5 years down the road when the current paths in the cars chassity are spotted with dead zones and rust areas or broken connections. A ground kit wont really help that much for a brand spankin new car. You wont notice a difference.

anyways... it comes with prelength cables of various sizes, largest size being maybe 4 feet in length. how you plan on attaching this to the negative terminal of the battery and connecting the cables to the various engine components? Useless if you plan on attaching the cables to several various metal connections in your trunk if you ask me, lol.

 

Thank you.^ As a former electronic tech I can safely say this thing is snake oil. The only person that will benefit from it is the guy that sells it. Save your money and go to Burger King. Or send it to me! That will do you as much good as a "Ground Kit". But like P.T.Barnum once said, "there's an ass for every seat". I hope that's not copywrighted!

I almost forgot. I've got an old ham sandwich for sale. Put it in your ari cleaner and it's gauranteed to give you more HP, clean your engine and make your GF horney!

 

**** i forgot the cobalts battery is in the trunk lol. you'd have to find the cable that went from the battery to the front unless it grounds to the body before that. I stated my prior usage but I wont be doing it to this car. I'll spend the $40 on new head light bulbs instead

 

Don't you guys get it? When you start your car you're drawing 200 plus amps from your battery. That means you have that 200 amps available to run everything on the car PLUS the batteries reserve capacity. It only takes 25 or 30 amps to run everything in your car at the same time, except the starter. Cable size determines current carrying capacity. You can hook a 18 gauge wire to your system or a 00 gauge the voltage will be the same, but the 18 gauge wire will melt with anything more than a couple of amps applied to it and the oo will laugh at you. Google "ohm's law' and learn something about electricity before you waste your hard earned money. Really!
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f you're ADAMANT you need bigger cables/wires just run a cable/ wire slightly smaller that what is already there, in parallel to the existing. Electrically it accompishes everything you think bigger cables will.

Unless, of course, you're after more bling than zing.

I'm done!