ok so i want an electric cutout and i know hahn has that mod pipe but i also thout that CIA made an electric cutout and after the cutout put a high flo cat..... which one should i get? the CIA one is cheaper.... but for most car stuff cheaper usually meens not as good.... the reason i am getting an electric cutout btw is so i can keep my stock look and when the cutout is closed my stock (basically) sound.... basically i want it so i don't have to spend money on catback

 

CIA and hahn are about the same price if you exclude the mod pipe (the V-bands cost a lot). I would vote CIA just because you can get the cutout and the cat in the same package.

 

but is there setup any good(no CEL and hooks up to the stock catback with no problem)?? and if i went with hahn i would only get the mod pipe.....

 

lemme get this straight. the point in the a cut out is so that your car flows air out faster. sounds cooler. maybe a little more horsepower, if so how much?? and when it's closed it's just like having a regular exhaust?
and is the cut out before or after the cat? if it's after that wouldn't make much sense i don't think. do tell
i'm interested. and i like hahns stuff. but do they sell one with the cut out? or do ya have to get one made for it?

oh. and if your doing a full exhaust from hahn anyway does the cut out even make a difference? the DP and the 3" cat back.

 

The type of O2 bung that hahn/CIA designs have is claimed not to set CEL and all of them bolt to stock catback. The designs of the O2 bungs are near identical in style and placement. Both pipes can be had in stainless. With Hahn you pay more (which is justified because of the v-band design) and you don't have the option of having a cutout and a cat at the same time.

CIA:


Hahn:

 

oh i just saw where hahn does offer the electric cut out
but it someone could answer my other questions plz

but wait you can't get the cat and the cutout can you?

 

I was going to write it out, but felt like drawing instead:



Closed = normal
Open = 2 flow paths, much less restriction = more lower = mo powa!

Also, with a cutout open it usually doesn't sound cooler, it sounds very very loud and will annoy everyone around you, which can be pretty cool given the right circumstance.

With the CIA you can get cutout and cat in the same downpipe. With the Hahn mod pipe you can have only one at a time (straight pipe, straightpipe w/ cutout, or cat).

 

how much more power? it's like having a duel exhaust lol?

 

Dunno, I doubt anyone has dynoed a car w/ a tune, stock catback, & catless DP w/ cutout open. Thats my plan at least.

 

You will probably gain around 15whp with either setup as long as you are tuned. Having the cutout open will mostly make it a lot louder , but I do not think you will make more than maybe 2-3 HP more than a full exhaust setup. Even the stock catback has proven to flow extremely well. It will be very loud with the cutout open so if you like loud that is what you want.

 

If you like scaring cats and small children a cutout will work nicely!

 

Your neighbors will love you too!!!.

 

My neighbor used to own a muffler/catless 96 911 GT, sounded like a briggs and straten at idle but once he got it moving, holy **** was that amazing. Only Porsche owner that I knew that actually took his car to road courses.

 

well the main reason i want it is cause i don't want to be loud unless i am racing........ also i think it is a great way to stay a sleeper cause correct me if i am wrong but with the cutout closed and my stock cat back on i will sound (or close to) stock.... also isn't CIA'S dp with the cutout and high flow cat....... just that...... like is it just a cutout not an electric one..... anyone know the differance?

side note: i also like the fact (with HAHN's dp) that if i get a bigger turbo all i have to do is switch the head i don't have to switch the whole damn dp....

 

I wish our cars sounded like the Porsche Carerra GT with open exhaust. I heard one on youtube man those exotics can really scream when you open them up.

 

bump.... trying to order by today

 

go with CIA. deffinatly better bang for the buck.

Same type of metal used so there is no difference. just cheaper price.

 

my thing is tho isn't CIA not an electric cutout..... isn't it just a cutout? and if it is just a cutout is it open all the time.... cause i don't need that type of attention... lol

 

They have a electric option. The manual cut out is closed untill you uncap it by unbolting it. That is a PITA though as you have to crawl under the car to open or close a manual cutout. Electric is pretty expensive though. I think it is $160 more than the reg cut out option so approx $600. total for the DP and electric cut out.

 

thanks terminator!

 

You are welcome. Anytime I can answer a question I will try to.

 

i assume you are talking about hahns' cause i just called CIA and they said that they don't/won't have an electric cutout option............. so yeah looks like i am going with hahn..... cause i am in no way crawling under my car to open the cutout..... that would just look like i was a tool that was too cheap to buy an electric cutout

 

We need some clarification from CIA then. If they don't want to sell the electric cutout that is one thing, but if a QTP or DMH cutout isn't going to work with their cutout placement thats a completely different matter.

If you have a cutout (the piping) installed all you need to do is buy and install an electric cutout valve instead of a block-off plate provided there is clearance for the electronic valve to fit.

 

Thanks for all the interest in our down-pipe everyone.

Let me clarify a few things since there are now comparisons being done between our products and the other guys.

1. We offer the choice between aluminized steel tubing and 304 stainless tubing.
2. we offer the same O2 chamber option.
3. Our "cut-out" option, as shown above on the prototype DP, is available with either a block-off plate which needs to be un-capped or an electric option.
4. We can build the DP with a modular option for larger turbo up-grades. It's not a big deal at all. We use the same V-band flanges as the other guy and we cn easily make the top part of our DP removable, just ahead of the cut-out. This would add $45.00 (steel) to 75.00 (304 stainless) as the V-band flanges are expensive.
5. As noted above, less expensive does often mean cheaper quality. But, not with us. We are the manufacturer and have chosen to market direct to the members without using vendors to do our sales for us. So basically, you all are able to purchase the best products available with the highest quality anywhere, at WHOLESALE pricing.
6. The two DP's pictured above are not an apples to apples comparison. With =out the converter we are roughly $100.00 less expensive.
7. We WILL offer an electric cut-out option. Beth was out of the loop on this as i forgot to tell her. Sorry for the confusion.
8. Finally, we do everything in-house and are happy to custom build products the exact way you would like.

Production picture of the 304 stainless DP with hi-flow converter:



Who says less expensive means inferior products?
Thanks again.

 

Not sure why people always assume cheaper means less quality two companies can have almost the same product ones charges 800 and the other charges 400 just because the first company "needs" a higher profit margin doesn't mean it is better they just like your deep pockets