LOL, thread jack. I miss that car.

 

Where is the Chevrolet Cust Svc /bot..... that posts on this site.....seems like this is a perfect thread for it/her to get involved in . I just saw her post yesterday so I know she's around.

 

first of all read for comprehension my friend and secondly the money is coming from something called a savings account i suggest you try and get one

in any event:

the dealership apparently told enterprise that they are no longer paying for the rental and that i should be charged for it so they are looking for me for $1200 i have to drive 2 hrs tomorrow morning to take the rental back and now i am going to be carless for who knows how long

i have been asking around and some people are telling me just to do the pistons and thats it, i think since i am already taking it apart it makes more sense to start fresh with a new head from zzp which comes with new valves, get the wiseco pistons, and the zzp ecotec rods

 

Its funny reading your story cuz its sounds exactly the same as what happened to my buddy in his 2001 Camaro SS. had 60K miles (extended warranty) #5 Piston ring went, they replaced #5 ring and resleved that cylinder, then #7 went, they replaced, then he blew a hole in #3 piston. They tried to claim he was using Nitrous, but he wasnt. So after months of arguing with them he gave up while his car just sat there until i got involved..........I went to the Stealership and told them that if they didnt replace the motor that we were going to take them to court........the next day they called and told my buddy they were going to replace the motor.........since then no more problems!!!

You need to be very aggressive, or they will walk all over you! dont be afraid to get what is owed to you!! Just Sayin!!

 

i went there today talked to the service manager and told him the real story and he emailed some district person and i am suppose to have a phone call from him later today but apparently my car is operable but still misfires

 

I've noticed quite a few of your posts Knightwolf, and just wondering what exactly is going through your head? Almost every post is how Gm is screwing you, denying you warranty, they can't fix things properly, etc. I'm sure you are well aware that doing any kind of non-oem engine calibrations voids the warranty, as they modify boost, engine timing and most likely the rev limit? Oh, and for full disclosure, I am a gm mechanic. You have several posts bragging about how you fooled them by getting warranty when you shouldn't have, so how can you get pissed when they think you are lying to them? Also, claiming you don't think they fixed the valvetrain properly the first time. Was it even the same rockers that failed the most recent time you brought it in? If not, it's seriously unlikely it was improper install. If you are looking for someone to blame, you should seriously look in the mirror and quit pointing fingers at the dealerships. It's you who has caused most of your recent vehicle problems.

To be fair, I can't vouche for every dealership and would be stupid to do so. All I can say, is that the dealer I work at has very rarely ever denied warranty based on engine mods. We pretty much have the policy that if we can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that is was customer abuse, we just repair the problem. This is GM's policy for the most part. However when you post all your bragging about racing, engine mods, even timeslips, on the internet, don't be overly surprised if it bites you in the ass.

 

Agreed ..... when you money shift an LNF from 100 mph in 3rd back into 2nd ......**** breaks . I see where he keeps saying the LNF had a weak valvetrain..... but if it is so weak ...how come we arent seeing a thousand threads about the top end of these cars coming apart .

I know there are some people having follower and lash adjuster issues but from what i can see most are from pushing the Rev limiter up or mechanically over revving the motor's . I for one don't see the need for raising the stock limiter much higher on a stock turbo ..... these cars start falling off over 6000 on a K04 anyway....so why push it?

 

You're exactly right, we (dealership) have never seen this type of failure before on a SS, so odds are the dealer he brought it to haven't either, which is why they started looking into it. For it to happen twice and with admitted over revving, well it's pretty clear why it most likely occurred. I don't know the full story behind Knightwolf's saga, beyond what he has posted, but he needs to start taking some of the responsibility. I've had several cars under warranty, and knew full well when I started modding them it was very likely I would be held accountable if something in the powertrain failed. I may start sounding biased but the fact is a factory car is warrantied as such, a factory car, with no mods. I'm sure I will start getting the replies with such wit as "Oh I have a K&N filter, so now they can void my warranty?"...... However, I assume the average cobalt owner is a little smarter than that.

Regarding other cars, I have a Mazda Speed3 which I've done some stuff to. When it was brought in for regular maintenance, one of the managers noticed it. We talked a bit, and their policy seemed roughly the same. Some mods are fine, but once you change from stock, their are no guarantees. I would assume most other manufacturers have the same view. Believe it or not, car companies want to keep their customers.

Also, sorry Rukkee, since I quoted your post it looks like this is aimed at you It's definitely not, you obviously have common sense.

 

I know you only have 2 posts, but when you say this, it also makes me think you haven't been around here for very long... Hang out for a while and then tell me about the average intelligence of Cobalt owners...

 

Haha.... yep .... the name shortbus came from somewhere lol

 

Had this site been older than it is, you would not have had to try hard to convince me that the term was coined in reference to this site sometimes....

 

lol.

I have had legitimate warranty work performed but it was really for things that should be warrantied. Lower charge pipe cracking where the vac line attaches should not have occured under factory settings even though I had an intake, a aftermarket recirculating BPV, a downpipe, and an upper charge pipe.

I had the ignition replaced because the friggen key got locked into the tumbler while the car was on and I couldnt shut the damn thing off.... I almost had to argue with my dealership because (even though there was a service bulletin about this for cobalts from 07-09) my car was out of warranty by a few thousand miles and I wasnt on that service bulletin since I had an SS...

Sounds crazy that the bulletin was only for LTs and not SS's... as if they used different ignitons, lol.
The service rep told me that they were going to do me a favor and take care of it anyways which was awesome but it made me alittle upset that they presented it that way and that even though this ignition issue should be replaced on every cobalt ever made, they were toying with the idea of not warranting the work.

^This is why I dont trust that GM dealerships are as service oriented as Kobi presents them to be, at least in my area. No offense Kobi, Im glad you became apart of the forum, you will be able to provide insight to other members about issues they are having and that is very much appreciated. I know well in fact that there are quite a few that actually had to PAY for their ignition to get fixed and its not like its something that can be ignored, Its a MUST repair as issue occurs basis. SHow of hands for those reading this thread that had the ignition issue and had to pay something like $400 to get it fixed out of pocket....

 

Ya.. it's not Laura anymore.. it's some GM puppet now.

 

22psi of boost is no more than the Gm stage 1, and there's no high spike at all.. that's what I'm running.. I never once lied to them, I told them straight up. Get your story straight buddy before you point fingers. I could've hid the bloody tune, but feel it was unnecessary since it's not ***** to the wall. As for the the valvetrain, it is either a repeat problem, or continued damage that was missed.. either way. The rev limiter is at stock settings. Mods are boost tubes, downpipe and a K&N intake.. would u void a warranty with minimal modifications to a car? Then you're as bad as the people I'm dealing with. Get your head straight pal. I've read alot of threads on this site and I do know that alot of people who have alot more mods than I have are still getting warranty work by hiding their **** and tuning back to stock. So because I'm honest, I'm getting screwed in the ass according to you.
Maybe you should read more posts too btw, there are failures on here, and yes some are from abuse and mechanical etc., however, I take care of my car and drive it like a white man 98% of the time. The over-rev was 1 time in 2.5 years.. I haven't had any problems with the car before that, other than the factory computer failing in the first week(and as such I've been tuned since the day I got the new ECM in since the factory was screwed up from day 1), and of course the brakes, which Gm wouldn't fix, I had to do it myself with my own money even though it's under warranty and that too is a common problem. Idiots like you don't deserve air /end rant

 

all this arguing on this thread and no one answered my damn question wtf lol

 

start talking to a lawyer bro

A GM dealership didnt want to do my brakes when i took it them...which was badly warped...that came out of my pocket

GM guys did some work on my steering column I found hardware laying, **** loose, and my OBD port hanging...

Im not gonna even talk about my buddies G8 and other buddy GTO. And they were all different dealerships. GM HQ have these dealerships tarnishing them. With shitty service and I dont give a **** about the customer attitude. Thats why if break something on my modded car they need to prove to me my mod broke it if not fix it, properly and shut up. And I really dont care what anybody else thinks. Im tired getting the shaft. It goes both ways now. What they doing to jack is BULLSHIT!!!!

/rant

 

well they have called today to tell me gm said they aren't fixing it
i just want my car running so i will pay for it myself i have everything in writing from gm and am forwarding it to my attorney he can deal with them

 

Hey Cuda, I agree with you fully. Regarding the ignition cylinder problem. It is a very common problem, I've done tons of them. Basically what happens is the retainer that holds all the tumblers in the cylinders comes loose, and the springs behind the tumblers push the retainer out... Causing it to jam. I hate to sound like a broken record, but it comes down to the dealer alot of times, if they will help you out. The service manager at any dealer is allowed to make a call for goodwill if the vehicle is off warranty, if he feels it is justified. This basically means GM will pay for some or all of the repair (depending on the situation). Once again, I can only say what I see at my dealer. We have a very high goodwill rate, especially in conditions such as yours, where the problem is very common. But to be honest, goodwill works both ways. You are way more likely to get goodwill, if you have a history at the said dealership. Be it warranty work or customer pay maintenance, they just seem more willing to scratch your back, because you scratched theirs (yes, a dealership gets paid for warranty work as well....work is work). So, to make a long story short, it does help to stick with a dealer in some situations (like this, a common problem). You could also try calling customer service, there have been instances where, if you can make a compelling case to why you feel you the repair should be done, they will ask the dealer to complete it for you. Unfortunately, it's less likely they will reimburse you, after the repairs were done (but hey, it wouldn't hurt to try, for a few minutes on the phone).

 

I don't deserve air..... Wow, that really hurts! I guess I do deserve a car though, mine is still running. How about yours?

I have no interest in continuing a pissing match with you. I'm not going to waste my time quoting all your previous posts where you make uneducated and inexperienced comments or assumptions as to why your car is broken. Your car is broken because you broke it. Get over it. The continuous "I told gm I don't give a f*ck if you void my warranty, I just want it fixed properly" quote is getting old. From what it sounds like, they have voided your warranty, and now all you are doing is crying.... I thought you didn't care? To the comments about why they won't warranty "their own install", that is a pretty vague statement. No independent shop, dealer, etc, will say they can definitely warranty any part or install of aftermarket components. They didn't design them, so why would they back them? Of course, unless the install was a blatant f*ck up on their part, that is different, and that would be addressed by them as such (dealer or independent shop).

As for why a Stage 1 GM kit is warrantied and aftermarket kits of similar design are not is pretty simple. Gm designed, engineered and verified it works with the current platform without any significant issues. Your aftermarket components did not. Just because the guy said he did your tune with "this" and "that" in mind does not mean it will not cause any issues. It's the same reason any company will not support or warranty any apps, add-ons, mods, etc, that they did not design or test. Be it Apple, Sony, Microsoft, etc. Try going to Sony and saying "I changed the firmware on my PS3..... Now it keeps crashing, I want it fixed!!!!" see what kind of response you get.

Whether or not the rockers broke as a result of poor design, dangerous and stupid driving (ya, that's a good reason, "I was half asleep and trying to pass a semi and a motor home"), or even if the tech did screw up..... it would have most likely been covered by warranty, no questions asked. However, you modified the ecm calibration. You got busted (or admitted it, as you say), and thus willingly voided your powertrain warranty. Deal with it.
I should probably say, this is the view of Kobi, and does not reflect the views or opinions of GM Canada

BTW: Thanks for the heads up about driving like a white man, Knightwolf! I'm going to call my insurance company tomorrow to make sure me driving like the black man I am, does not affect my current policy! Hate for 'dem to cancel me insurance polocee!

 

Ok pal.. if u wanna talk with your head up your azz, feel free. Some of what you said in this post was actually mature, up until your true colors came flying through at the end.
I don't expect them to warranty the bloody parts, simply their install since Gm dealerships have a pretty shitty track record so far; the parts are already warrantied anyways. My components have absolutely nothing to do with a lifter being lodged in my head. It was over-revved once in 2.5 years and it's run like a top other than that. That one time has caused damage and given me a headache in trying to deal with mechanics that are either a. too lazy to bother to check or b. too computer reliant to tell them what the problem is. Do you have any idea how many Gm dealerships I've been to try and get them to even look at the bloody car to see if there even is a problem? What am I supposed to do, tear it apart myself, then push it to their garage and say "hey, look at this!" Seriously.. that's about what has to be done tho tbh, it's really sad. When the problem started initially, I was told to keep driving it until it either a. Broke or b. threw a check engine light. This is professionalism? Really? And then they don't want to deal with their mistake afterwards? C'mon... where does this end? When does fairness and equality come into play? Isn't it common sense to actually look at something if an owner comes in and complains of a problem? Do you just send them back out on the road with a cracked rotor until it breaks and kills the occupants? That's the kind of attitude they have here. I don't know how you guys work in Vancouver, but I certainly hope it isn't the same kinda crap. If it is, then you know exactly what I'm talking about and that I'm right as well.
Rockers never broke fyi. This dealership won't guarantee their install at all, and I don't mean the parts, simply that they at least attempt to do the job right and not cause more problems. As for Gm stage 1, there's a guy here locally that has it. I saw that car blowing blue when he stepped on it.. is that a good tune to you? Warrantied even though it's not correct? Ugh.. I'm glad it wasn't yet available when I bought the car that's for sure; at the time I did want it tho.
And no, since I'm actually upgrading internal engine parts, I don't expect Gm to continue warranty of the engine at all.. maybe you can't read or don't understand english, I really don't know. But, since I'm forced to cancel my extended gmpp, they should certainly refund said funds of at least 90% instead of the 40% that they're trying to give me.
And who said I'm crying? I'm pissed, not crying. Maybe you're too young to know the difference... I just bought a new car a few days ago since I've been driving a rental for 2 weeks now on my own coin. Enough's enough already. And no way in hell did I buy another Gm product as I said I never will again for the rest of my life.
As for you, I realize you're biased since you work for the company that pays your bills, but you really should just put yourself in another person's shoes before flapping at the gums like a girl.