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Old May 31, 2010 | 02:30 AM
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HP Tuner or Hahn BSR PPC

Ok, I have a quick question. What do you all recommend for tuning. HP Tuner or Hahn PPC Tuner? I know its a big price difference, but I dont think you have to worry about credits with PPC. Let me know what you all think. Thanks
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Old May 31, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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hp or trifecta.. ppc tuner is fail for the price.. hell if you're looking at the ppc you might as well look at gms1 lol
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Old May 31, 2010 | 02:53 AM
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hp or trifecta.. ppc tuner is fail for the price.. hell if you're looking at the ppc you might as well look at gms1 lol
LOL... How much does the GM Stage Kit runs?
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Old May 31, 2010 | 03:13 AM
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like $600 ish with install.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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GMS1 is cheaper, and probably makes more power, runs better too i bet. PPC blows.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fakameanrepresent
like $600 ish with install.

Thanks man .... So let me get this right...I should install in this order?

1) GM Stage Kit
2) After Market Mods
3) Results
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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If your looking no further than a mild tune, buy a Superchips tuner. You can flash it un flash it and it etc. shouldn't set you back more than 250. People on here run mid 13s with SCtune. I had it and it worked just fine, but 600 for a GMS1 is too much IMHO
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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i ran 13.51@107 with superchips

i went yesterday and hp toooned

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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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I mean for the $ a SCT is not bad when compared to other after market stuff. I like being able to flash back and read fuel trims, IAts etc got my cortex for under 300 and sold it for what I payed. I personally wouldn't get the GMS1, its just a GM tune and a MAP buy the map and tune with HP or Trifecta
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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There is a reason, I would say, that no one buys the PPC.

HPTuners or Trifecta
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Old May 31, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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ppc is too expensive when superchips does the same thing for 200-250 used. i would say superchips for now, collect some mods, throw them on at one time, and get hp or trifecta
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I don't recommend getting the GMS1 coming from someone who lost their ass to a tuned Caliber SRT-4 with barely no mods. I would just recommend getting all your bolt on's first before you get your tune like either Trifecta or HPTuners if you don't care about your warranty that much, but if you do get a GMS1 w/o the bolt on's and just add the DP and you'll be set. The superchips should have been my choice with my kind of mods I have on my private signature, but their devices are not designed to flash over a aftermarket tune, unless someone can prove me wrong.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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I don't recommend getting the GMS1 coming from someone who lost their ass to a tuned Caliber SRT-4 with barely no mods. I would just recommend getting all your bolt on's first before you get your tune like either Trifecta or HPTuners if you don't care about your warranty that much, but if you do get a GMS1 w/o the bolt on's and just add the DP and you'll be set. The superchips should have been my choice with my kind of mods I have on my private signature, but their devices are not designed to flash over a aftermarket tune, unless someone can prove me wrong.
He's head on. Trifecta even has a switchable tune that hides it from the eyes of the techs. Many won't notice it. And most hard parts won't void your warranty as long as you're not throwing a CEL and they have to prove that it caused the issue anyway.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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i run superchips with everything i have listed in sig. the tune is great until you get to my area of mods. its jerky, and boost spikes on me all the time. it was great when i was almost stock.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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trifecta or hpt......gms1 if you dont plan on getting a lot of bolt ons. in all honesty you get the 3 bar maps from zzp or pwerks for cheaper then gms1 and then have someone tune you with hpt. the ppc is a fail for being so expensive and seeing about the gains of a superchips tune.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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trifecta i had both hpt first, now i have trifecta omg what a difference lol go with trifecta
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I go with some strong sensors since there has been a bad case of the munches coming from GM with the stock sensors going out. Had my GMS1 sensors on and never had a problem.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ss4life1023
i run superchips with everything i have listed in sig. the tune is great until you get to my area of mods. its jerky, and boost spikes on me all the time. it was great when i was almost stock.
the exact experience I had with it, loved it when I was stock... as the mods came, 1st gear was jerky as hell, boost spikes, etc.... have since went Trifecta and well, no comparing the two
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Old May 31, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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The Hahn PPC Tuner is a waste of money. You can get a much better tune for a lot less money (i.e. HPT or Trifecta)
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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the exact experience I had with it, loved it when I was stock... as the mods came, 1st gear was jerky as hell, boost spikes, etc.... have since went Trifecta and well, no comparing the two
i am trying finish my build and then i will get tuned with trifecta. i am lucky because i live 10mins from clear image and 30 mins from vince and trifecta. vince is going to tune my car on the dyno for a more precise tune due to the mods i will have. i cant wait.
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Originally Posted by scarface7272
Ok, I have a quick question. What do you all recommend for tuning. HP Tuner or Hahn PPC Tuner? I know its a big price difference, but I dont think you have to worry about credits with PPC. Let me know what you all think. Thanks
my advice, buy the trifecta tune and cable. cable is 250 and ull get the tune cheaper then. when u have the cable u can data log, send it to vince and he fine funes, and whenever u wanna make changes, like raise ur boost or whatever, its free. plus u can turn the tune on and off with traction control button or cruise button, its like having an M button that the m3 has. lol love it.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ss4life1023
i am trying finish my build and then i will get tuned with trifecta. i am lucky because i live 10mins from clear image and 30 mins from vince and trifecta. vince is going to tune my car on the dyno for a more precise tune due to the mods i will have. i cant wait.
You mean the HIDs, the Hawk brake pads, or the Ark antenna?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 01:50 AM
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nope. still need the cia map relocation pipe, 3in titanium dp back exhaust, and k04 wheel upgrade.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ss4life1023
nope. still need the cia map relocation pipe, 3in titanium dp back exhaust, and k04 wheel upgrade.


dont plan on driving your car all that much do ya?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 02:36 AM
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not really, track car
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