I think my TPMS is stealing my boost! Help!
I think my TPMS is stealing my boost! Help!
Hi all, total newber here. I just purchased a sweet black 09 SS/TC a few weeks prior.
I noticed that whenever I'm fiddling with my little gran turismo fisher price gauge and watching boost pressure, it doesn't hit 15 unless my tires are filled properly. If, for example the cold weather throws my TPMS sensor light, she steals my psi!!
Im right, right? What parameters does the ECU consider when deciding how to operate the wastegate? My buddy tells me NO WAY, and that the car is most probably taking things like ambient air temps, IAT's (whats that??) coolant temp and knock history into account. But im saying I have first hand experience here.
HALP!
I noticed that whenever I'm fiddling with my little gran turismo fisher price gauge and watching boost pressure, it doesn't hit 15 unless my tires are filled properly. If, for example the cold weather throws my TPMS sensor light, she steals my psi!!
Im right, right? What parameters does the ECU consider when deciding how to operate the wastegate? My buddy tells me NO WAY, and that the car is most probably taking things like ambient air temps, IAT's (whats that??) coolant temp and knock history into account. But im saying I have first hand experience here.
HALP!
On demand torque..?
So you're saying that the ECU sees throttle position as a "requested torque" parameter? Or are you saying the car will adjust wastegate duty cycle to find a specific caluculated load within its abilities taking air temp and barametric pressure into account?
And I know right... i filled my tires and bam, 15psi!!!! So who's right?
So you're saying that the ECU sees throttle position as a "requested torque" parameter? Or are you saying the car will adjust wastegate duty cycle to find a specific caluculated load within its abilities taking air temp and barametric pressure into account?
And I know right... i filled my tires and bam, 15psi!!!! So who's right?
There is a desired air load table along with a torque management table
The car is programmed to make 260 ft lbs stock no matter what
If it makes more...you will boost less to make less tq
In the winter on a stock tune I boost 10 lbs.
The car is programmed to make 260 ft lbs stock no matter what
If it makes more...you will boost less to make less tq
In the winter on a stock tune I boost 10 lbs.
On demand torque..?
So you're saying that the ECU sees throttle position as a "requested torque" parameter? Or are you saying the car will adjust wastegate duty cycle to find a specific caluculated load within its abilities taking air temp and barametric pressure into account?
And I know right... i filled my tires and bam, 15psi!!!! So who's right?
So you're saying that the ECU sees throttle position as a "requested torque" parameter? Or are you saying the car will adjust wastegate duty cycle to find a specific caluculated load within its abilities taking air temp and barametric pressure into account?
And I know right... i filled my tires and bam, 15psi!!!! So who's right?
Ok, I understand now I think. What I don't understand is how the "car" as you say (more the ECU/ECM) determines a boost pressure suitable to make 260 tq. For example if we can calculate load which is simply MAF measured g/s x crank revolution (either 360 or 720 depending on how fancy chevy engineers are) then we can "estimate" torque. But the loading conditions like air temp and humidity play a HUGE part of finding true true max torque.
And btw fellas, max torque hits as a peak on a continuous curve through your power band... so WHY exactly am I boosting 10psi from onset to redline???
If I were to fill my tires to say, 45psi would I offset the 10psi and maybe hit 15 again??
And btw fellas, max torque hits as a peak on a continuous curve through your power band... so WHY exactly am I boosting 10psi from onset to redline???
If I were to fill my tires to say, 45psi would I offset the 10psi and maybe hit 15 again??
Are you on drugs? Seriously?
Last edited by krispy; Dec 15, 2008 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Hi all, total newber here. I just purchased a sweet black 09 SS/TC a few weeks prior.
I noticed that whenever I'm fiddling with my little gran turismo fisher price gauge and watching boost pressure, it doesn't hit 15 unless my tires are filled properly. If, for example the cold weather throws my TPMS sensor light, she steals my psi!!
Im right, right? What parameters does the ECU consider when deciding how to operate the wastegate? My buddy tells me NO WAY, and that the car is most probably taking things like ambient air temps, IAT's (whats that??) coolant temp and knock history into account. But im saying I have first hand experience here.
HALP!
I noticed that whenever I'm fiddling with my little gran turismo fisher price gauge and watching boost pressure, it doesn't hit 15 unless my tires are filled properly. If, for example the cold weather throws my TPMS sensor light, she steals my psi!!
Im right, right? What parameters does the ECU consider when deciding how to operate the wastegate? My buddy tells me NO WAY, and that the car is most probably taking things like ambient air temps, IAT's (whats that??) coolant temp and knock history into account. But im saying I have first hand experience here.
HALP!
the comp is limiting your boost because it does not have to work as hard to hit 260hp
you arent knocking with a stock car unless your using 0 octane fuel lol... but 91 or better in it and you will be fine
keep tires at 32 psi range
What is a troll exactly?? Was it the halp or the 45psi comment??
In all seriousness I want to run a winter wheel/tire combo and I do NOT want to mess with moving the sensors over. Will having NO sensors (and surely tripping the system warning) effect anything?
Thread CN: Does to ECU use TPMS info to modify requested torque, or does the TPMS work as an independant system that does nothing more than flash a light at me?
In all seriousness I want to run a winter wheel/tire combo and I do NOT want to mess with moving the sensors over. Will having NO sensors (and surely tripping the system warning) effect anything?
Thread CN: Does to ECU use TPMS info to modify requested torque, or does the TPMS work as an independant system that does nothing more than flash a light at me?
What is a troll exactly?? Was it the halp or the 45psi comment??
In all seriousness I want to run a winter wheel/tire combo and I do NOT want to mess with moving the sensors over. Will having NO sensors (and surely tripping the system warning) effect anything?
Thread CN: Does to ECU use TPMS info to modify requested torque, or does the TPMS work as an independant system that does nothing more than flash a light at me?
In all seriousness I want to run a winter wheel/tire combo and I do NOT want to mess with moving the sensors over. Will having NO sensors (and surely tripping the system warning) effect anything?
Thread CN: Does to ECU use TPMS info to modify requested torque, or does the TPMS work as an independant system that does nothing more than flash a light at me?
that's weird, i've got a TPM warning atm from how cold it dropped and i haven't filled the tires back to 33psi, they are nearing 25psi atm but i haven't notice any reduced boost.......other than because it's cold
Well on my 2008 Sky Redline I run my tires at around 24psi when I drag race. never has affected the power. If it is colder outside the boost wont go as high because it doesnt have to to keep the power at around 260. I could see it going into low boost mode if the tires were really low but how low do yo uneed to go to race?
well since already the majority of the post on the thread CLEARLY STATE that low tire pressure cannot cause low boost........unless the senor is completely faulty which so far nobody here has had happen to them........... i still think this guy is a troll


