Our Gears are super long?!!!

 

Not just you. But you got crazy SS/TC torque man, 260 raging pounds-feet at a staggeringly low 2,000 RPM... you can pull any car at any speed in 5th gear!

On a more serious note, a lot of SC guys bitch about first being way too short and second way too long. Same trans in the TC, different final drive and obviously different motor and power delivery... not sure how that changes things but yeah someone who actually knows what they're talking about can have a go.

 

i love my gearing at the track. my ONLY gearing complaint is a longer 5th or a 6th for highway use

 

on the track i dont even get out of 3rd!

 

cuz you are teh slow.

 

Sounds about right. Third tops at what, just north of 100 on a stock SC? Probably higher on the turbo cars.

 

There's been times when I'm running somebody on the highway that it actually helps me get more lead on them. While they're messing with having to shift right after we go sometimes, I have more tach to go. I've found that at reasonable (read <65-70MPH) speeds, I can actually drop into 3rd for starts. This helps even more if we start from a 50s start. I just keep pulling until I need to shift.

Sometimes even if it's a higher speed start, if you can at least get 1K RPM to spare in 3rd, it's the little bit that'll help you pull ahead until you hit 4th. It's sometimes made the difference in the runs against the Mustangs I've beaten.

 

i find it funny racing cars with short gear ratios bcuz everytime they shift im still in the same gear. all that shifting for nothing lol

 

1st is really short 2nd is very long compared to first. I hate that the rpms drop from 6k in 1st to 3K when I shift to second. 3rd, 4th, and 5th are higher than normal too. Most 4cylinder cars are 500-1000 rpms higher at 60 mph than us. An evo X is at approx 3000 rpms at 60 mph.

 

atleast were not like the fast and the furious movies where they show them shifting every 5 seconds.

what gear is he in now 20th? cuz thats the 20th time he's upshifted. lol

 

Yes, it's just you.

 

hey i totally agree ........... i think if i had 1$ for every time someone told me my gears are super long when i win a race i would be rich

 

For day to day driving, the shift between first and second is very strange indeed. Compared to my 140hp SOHC Civic's transmission, second gear ratio is actually very similar, so... the short first gear gives a very abrupt change in torque multiplication.

I find that starting off in traffic and smoothly accelerating is challenging. The process starts as... slowly to through first gear to 2500rpm (about 13mph), depress clutch, slowly engage second gear, wait almost two seconds for the revs to fall, and then slowly release in second. Then you can go from 12 to 69mph as at WOT and confuse the driver behind you. The whole time they're riding your ass to 12mph, before they can say "Why the HELL is this guy taking so long?", you've already hit 60.

The ratios are really designed for a track, so I don't complain about the minor inconvenience. My rear bumper at some point may disagree with me though.

Also since I used to drive a little Honda to work everyday, I had a hard time believing I could cruise along at 2,000rpm without lugging the engine since the little Honda didn't develop max torque until... I don't know 6700rpm on its 6800 rpm rev range?

Okay, maybe I'm not being fair. It was 128 lb./ft. @ 4300rpm.

 

1st is too short compared to 2nd like its been noted above. Need a 6th gear for a really good highway cruising gear, its odd to me to be near 3k rpm @ 75 in 5th.

 

I think 3K at appox 80 is not bad at all the EVO X is at nearly 4K at that same speed that is rediculous no wonder they get 18 mpg.

 

i hate our first gear , but other than that , i am happy with our shifts, and screw the 6 gears car ...

 

I'm still used to T56/LS1 combinations which are revving closer to 2k.

 

You want to hear some crazy gearing. My dad's SRT-10 viper is at 1500 RPMs at 80 MPH in 6th gear. Amazing what 29 inch tires 3.08 FD and 0.50 OD. will do.
I would like a 6th gear at 0.60 OD for cruising above 60 MPH on the hwy, and I wish 2nd was a 2.10:1 not 1.76:1 ratio.

 

ya i do miss my fbody 90mph in 6th at 2krpms

the cobalt really does need a taller 1st and a 6th gear for cruising

 

the cobalt doesnt need a 6th gear

 

i do alot of highway driving and i would love another gear... just something to keep the rpms around 2k at 90, id be getting 50mpg, it def needs a 6th gear

 

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I agree. First gear is pretty much useless to me. It just gets you moving so you can immediately go to second. The amount of torque our engines put out could almost put a sixth gear to use. Maybe it'd even raise mpg on the highway by a bit more.

We've got a really incredible car. With the power we've got along with the gas mileage we've got... It's like having your cake and eating it too.

 

QFT lol

 

. I liked it when they would down shift and over rev the motor.