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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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LNF Rear Rotor Pics

I had the car on a lift yesterday.

I have 300 miles on the bitch and the rears look pretty bad compared to front.

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Am I just being crazy or is this normal. I thought most braking was up front, but the fronts look clean


UPDATE: I am an idiot.

The guys over at genuineSaab were working on my car and I asked them about my rear brakes. He took a flashlight to it and noticed that the brakes aren't even broke in yet.

If you look at the brake with a light you will see black lines that go 2 directions diagonally across the face of the rotor. He said this is the factory machining material and it still is not rubbed off yet. Essentially the pad isn't flat and is making what look like grooves in the machining. He said once the machining is gone then you can actually determine if something is wrong. Essentially the rotor isn't broken in and isn't in to the good rotor material yet.

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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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It is the aggressive pads.

It is ok, despite the 32894789023562347648923764789234678923423462354 fanbois who are going to come in here and cry about this that and the other in about 4 seconds.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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i heard someone else's rear's went after 12k miles, any relations or is that guy just a really hard on braking.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I'm gonna really try to and be sweet on it. The guys that were working on the car work on Saab cars and actually just converted the Brembos to work on some of their Saab vehicles. They thought they were a little too worn, but it could have been aggresive people test driving. The fronts look so good though.

The Saab guys do have Brembo blanks that they had grooved for better performance. They look amazing and if my rotors go out i will be going to them.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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I didn't Know LNF's came with rear rotors
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
i heard someone else's rear's went after 12k miles, any relations or is that guy just a really hard on braking.
They had to replace my pads and machine my rotors at 6k miles and I am mostly highway miles. Almost no hard braking. The rotors are too soft or the pads are too agreesive or a little of both. I will get different pads next time if this happens again.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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dammmmm i got 4400 on my car and they still look ok and it hit the brakes hard from time to time
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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dammmmm i got 4400 on my car and they still look ok and it hit the brakes hard from time to time
Well after a thousand or 2 I will recheck them and see what you guys think. I ran my fingernail across the face of it and it wouldn't catch so they aren't really deep, but they are there.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I had the car on a lift yesterday.

I have 300 miles on the bitch and the rears look pretty bad compared to front.

Fronts:




Rears:






Am I just being crazy or is this normal. I thought most braking was up front, but the fronts look clean
I do not care what anyone says. That is not normal wear. GM needs source a different alloy brake rotor that is harder if they are installing those agressive pads. My rears would have lasted less than 20K miles that is rediculous when you have to replace the rears more often than the fronts considering the fronts provide roughly 80% of your braking force.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
I didn't Know LNF's came with rear rotors
yea i thought it was front brake only wtf??
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I do not care what anyone says. That is not normal wear. GM needs source a different alloy brake rotor that is harder if they are installing those agressive pads. My rears would have lasted less than 20K miles that is rediculous when you have to replace the rears more often than the fronts considering the fronts provide roughly 80% of your braking force.
Agreed. Mine look similar to those in the pics. The rears which crap out so early indicates very poor design.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC
yea i thought it was front brake only wtf??
I think it might actually be Hand brake only
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I do not care what anyone says. That is not normal wear. GM needs source a different alloy brake rotor that is harder if they are installing those agressive pads. My rears would have lasted less than 20K miles that is rediculous when you have to replace the rears more often than the fronts considering the fronts provide roughly 80% of your braking force.
See that's what I thought too. The fronts still look semi-polished, but ******* 250 miles is retarded. I'm afraid I'll just get laughed at by the dealer.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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There seems to be a lot of people with SS/TC that have rear brake complaints. Mine sometimes make squealing noises at low speed. A lot of the problems appear related to GM's use of high performance metallic rear pads. Think I'm just gonna pull mine off at some point and replace them with Hawk ceramic pads. A few people have also reported the caliper bracket has extra flashing that rubs the rotor, this might be the case if you see a couple deep grooves. Grind the extra material off the bracket seems to be the fix for that.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by batboy
There seems to be a lot of people with SS/TC that have rear brake complaints. Mine sometimes make squealing noises at low speed. A lot of the problems appear related to GM's use of high performance metallic rear pads. Think I'm just gonna pull mine off at some point and replace them with Hawk ceramic pads. A few people have also reported the caliper bracket has extra flashing that rubs the rotor, this might be the case if you see a couple deep grooves. Grind the extra material off the bracket seems to be the fix for that.
Well you have a car from roughly the same background. How do your look?
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
I think it might actually be Hand brake only
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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I looked mine over pretty good a couple of days ago when it was on the lift getting an oil change. Front rotors look great, rear rotors have a few little grooves, but not bad like some I've seen. I have 3400 miles on the car now. Trouble is, dealerships have a bulletin that says they should tell the customers a little noise is common. There are a lot of posts on this subject. These cars don't have a lot of problems, but you have stumbled across one of the common problems.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by batboy
I looked mine over pretty good a couple of days ago when it was on the lift getting an oil change. Front rotors look great, rear rotors have a few little grooves, but not bad like some I've seen. I have 3400 miles on the car now. Trouble is, dealerships have a bulletin that says they should tell the customers a little noise is common. There are a lot of posts on this subject. These cars don't have a lot of problems, but you have stumbled across one of the common problems.
I don't mind the squel I just don't like how they look.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I don't mind the squel I just don't like how they look.
You think they look bad now imagine in 10K miles or so.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Well I'm keeping pictures to document for the dealer when they try to say it's my fault.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Well I'm keeping pictures to document for the dealer when they try to say it's my fault.
If they try that you can do what I did. Search for the old long thread about rear brake isuues and print that sucker out. Hard for them to say anything if 10 others people are having the same issue.
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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If they try that you can do what I did. Search for the old long thread about rear brake isuues and print that sucker out. Hard for them to say anything if 10 others people are having the same issue.
True, but I think pictures at 250 miles is pretty good as well. Does anyone have pictures of their rotors at 10k?
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
True, but I think pictures at 250 miles is pretty good as well. Does anyone have pictures of their rotors at 10k?
I think Krispy does. PM him.
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How often do you use your e-brake when parking?
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