looks like the LNF's finally got a another ECM TUNE!
09-11-2008, 03:57 PM
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I was just saying that I haven't seen any exact posts or threads about this exact ECM tune, but you're right about it in general.
09-11-2008, 04:00 PM
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Now the Cobalt's trans wouldn't surprise me from all the people on here that are saying that their gear cables are breaking already...
The GM Sweden transmission is a good transmission but I don't know how much HP it'll be able to take...
09-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Yes it is a canned tune... Mind you a canned tune that will comply with some limited bolt-ons CAI, high flow cat, cat-back...
Unfortunately the limitation for the LNF equipped Cobalt is the turbo... Just like it was for the Solstice/Sky's.
They are now just offering GT3076R swaps for the LNF's for the Sol/Sky's and they are making over 350WHP
Yeah I guess seeing that this tune has been out for a little over 3 weeks, it must really be old news... Yeah I forgot I've seen links of all over css.net too... Right....
Psykosteve is very good from what I've seen on here.... (with all due respect) but he also lives in Texas, and uses HP tuners... Of course if someone knows what the heck they are doing, is experienced and does a custom tune for you that is going to be the best.
But for those of us that don't live anywhere near Texas, or don't have the $ to fly the poor guy all around the U.S, this is a cheap and great alternative...
Unfortunately the limitation for the LNF equipped Cobalt is the turbo... Just like it was for the Solstice/Sky's.
They are now just offering GT3076R swaps for the LNF's for the Sol/Sky's and they are making over 350WHP
Yeah I guess seeing that this tune has been out for a little over 3 weeks, it must really be old news... Yeah I forgot I've seen links of all over css.net too... Right....
Psykosteve is very good from what I've seen on here.... (with all due respect) but he also lives in Texas, and uses HP tuners... Of course if someone knows what the heck they are doing, is experienced and does a custom tune for you that is going to be the best.
But for those of us that don't live anywhere near Texas, or don't have the $ to fly the poor guy all around the U.S, this is a cheap and great alternative...
09-11-2008, 04:10 PM
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um steve is a professional my man... he's also very very very good at what he does.
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
09-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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Umm I hope these people who are doing the canned tunes know what they are doing when they tune your ecm because i know i wouldnt pay that kind of money for someone who didnt know what they were doing with the cars computer... dude you make it sound like steve is SOOO much better than these PROFESSIONALS, (no offense steve at all just proving a point), but you make it sound like these guys dont know what they are doing but yet they get these kinds of gains... I mean if steve can get these gains and possibly more, shouldnt they beable to get more out since they are pros?
I was simply saying that unless you have someone experienced to tune your car, and account for all of your mods, and do repeated testing will you get an optimal tune...
Yeah, I could go and do some research, with some support from some people, go and buy HP tuners, and do the tuning myself, but seeing I have no experience or knowledge about it I could be doing more harm then help to my car...
I'm just saying that this canned tune is good for people that just want to pick up some 50hp and just have a few bolt-ons with it.
Personally I'm waiting to see what happens with the LNF owners and their balts when they get their cars over 300WHP... It's pretty much at the limit of the stock turbo, and like mentioned the transmission holding up @ those levels is also something to consider...
09-11-2008, 04:17 PM
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um steve is a professional my man... he's also very very very good at what he does.
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
look at all the people running 2.5" pullies, and 60 lbers. A good chunk blew their rings and pistons, the rest didnt. Does it mean everyone is going to blow their engine? No, but it seems to me theyre a ticking time bomb. Im betting your tranny wont last as long as u like.
**Also, whats ur best 1/4mi time??
09-11-2008, 05:45 PM
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Quoted from the GM roadster site....
These guys dont even know what the stock power is for the car... I wouldnt want them doing my car...
is steve a pro tuner... like he works at a shop to tune? That was my point... these guys get salaries to do this stuff so they better know what they are doing... If he is then i retract my statement and just puts my trust even farther into him... I never said he wasnt great at what he does.. I never doubted him at all actually
Stock 214Whp increased to 255Whp
Stock 255Lbs Torque increased to 299Lbs
Stock 255Lbs Torque increased to 299Lbs
um steve is a professional my man... he's also very very very good at what he does.
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
and to the trans comments.
Complete and utter bullshit.
**** my stock clutch lived for over a year at 370-415whp now on the exedy, 7 passes at the track on street slicks and all good.
F35 is decent trans... not the best, but decent
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09-11-2008, 06:13 PM
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well then somethings up... doesnt seem right that it only made that much. Yes yes i know that it all depends on the alititude and all that stuff but in reality it wouldnt make 215 hp and only 260 tq something is wrong with it.
09-11-2008, 06:16 PM
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Not necessarily. The "safe" ratings for the F35 is 350 whp. Anything past that is a gamble. Some people have more luck than others in terms of parts. You may have been a lucky one. Does that mean everyone is going to be? No.
look at all the people running 2.5" pullies, and 60 lbers. A good chunk blew their rings and pistons, the rest didnt. Does it mean everyone is going to blow their engine? No, but it seems to me theyre a ticking time bomb. Im betting your tranny wont last as long as u like.
**Also, whats ur best 1/4mi time??
look at all the people running 2.5" pullies, and 60 lbers. A good chunk blew their rings and pistons, the rest didnt. Does it mean everyone is going to blow their engine? No, but it seems to me theyre a ticking time bomb. Im betting your tranny wont last as long as u like.
**Also, whats ur best 1/4mi time??
as for the 1/4 i had a fucked up shifter cable last time at the track, went 13.1@116mph, going back in 2 weeks or so to get my 12.1 or 11.99 @124mph and calling it a season.
09-11-2008, 06:17 PM
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for the lazy
they also do state:
"This dyno chart represents the median gains of our results. We did not choose the higher numbers simply because we do not believe in mis-leading anyone. Also take note both days that we ran Dyno pulls the outside temperature was 111deg. So individuals in cooler climates can expect higher gains under the same tune."
they also do state:
"This dyno chart represents the median gains of our results. We did not choose the higher numbers simply because we do not believe in mis-leading anyone. Also take note both days that we ran Dyno pulls the outside temperature was 111deg. So individuals in cooler climates can expect higher gains under the same tune."
09-11-2008, 06:18 PM
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well it was a solstice ie RWD so more drivetrain loss. That combined with the fact that all dynos are different can explain the number. Dynos numbers are just that numbers.....the difference in stock vs tuned is whats important. Hell i've seen a cobalt ss/sc dyno with 19x whp and 18x wtq.
09-11-2008, 06:29 PM
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for the lazy
they also do state:
"This dyno chart represents the median gains of our results. We did not choose the higher numbers simply because we do not believe in mis-leading anyone. Also take note both days that we ran Dyno pulls the outside temperature was 111deg. So individuals in cooler climates can expect higher gains under the same tune."
they also do state:
"This dyno chart represents the median gains of our results. We did not choose the higher numbers simply because we do not believe in mis-leading anyone. Also take note both days that we ran Dyno pulls the outside temperature was 111deg. So individuals in cooler climates can expect higher gains under the same tune."
) put down 227/262 stock, and 267/309 tuned. And Stevo lives in AZ...not sure where that guy's Texas comment came from. That said, he does get around. Just ask him or search around - he may be coming soon to a location near you!The differences are almost exactly what I'd expect from the different drive trains. My higher peak hp in relation to higher torque likely comes from the cooler intake charge in these cars vs. the rwd ones. They tend to draw in warmer air based on the intake location.
09-11-2008, 06:34 PM
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eh i agree with you on that, though I did run a 2.5 pulley for over a year on meth and a **** load of timing with no ill effects, **** the same motor is still going strong over 400whp for 6 months now.
as for the 1/4 i had a fucked up shifter cable last time at the track, went 13.1@116mph, going back in 2 weeks or so to get my 12.1 or 11.99 @124mph and calling it a season.
as for the 1/4 i had a fucked up shifter cable last time at the track, went 13.1@116mph, going back in 2 weeks or so to get my 12.1 or 11.99 @124mph and calling it a season.
see, thats the beauty of the turbo though. That damn eaton is a inefficient heat monster. Ill bet the turbo runs more efficient boost and lower temps.
GL on breaking low 12's/11's. I know the SS is notorious for shitty launches first hand.
That was a rwd car as well...my car, on the same dyno, same day, same 111 degree weather (same Psykostevo-guy tuning it ) put down 227/262 stock, and 267/309 tuned. And Stevo lives in AZ...not sure where that guy's Texas comment came from. That said, he does get around. Just ask him or search around - he may be coming soon to a location near you!
The differences are almost exactly what I'd expect from the different drive trains. My higher peak hp in relation to higher torque likely comes from the cooler intake charge in these cars vs. the rwd ones. They tend to draw in warmer air based on the intake location.
) put down 227/262 stock, and 267/309 tuned. And Stevo lives in AZ...not sure where that guy's Texas comment came from. That said, he does get around. Just ask him or search around - he may be coming soon to a location near you!The differences are almost exactly what I'd expect from the different drive trains. My higher peak hp in relation to higher torque likely comes from the cooler intake charge in these cars vs. the rwd ones. They tend to draw in warmer air based on the intake location.
Unless the unusually high TQ represents a turbo swap??
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09-11-2008, 06:37 PM
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That was a rwd car as well...my car, on the same dyno, same day, same 111 degree weather (same Psykostevo-guy tuning it ) put down 227/262 stock, and 267/309 tuned. And Stevo lives in AZ...not sure where that guy's Texas comment came from. That said, he does get around. Just ask him or search around - he may be coming soon to a location near you!
The differences are almost exactly what I'd expect from the different drive trains. My higher peak hp in relation to higher torque likely comes from the cooler intake charge in these cars vs. the rwd ones. They tend to draw in warmer air based on the intake location.
) put down 227/262 stock, and 267/309 tuned. And Stevo lives in AZ...not sure where that guy's Texas comment came from. That said, he does get around. Just ask him or search around - he may be coming soon to a location near you!The differences are almost exactly what I'd expect from the different drive trains. My higher peak hp in relation to higher torque likely comes from the cooler intake charge in these cars vs. the rwd ones. They tend to draw in warmer air based on the intake location.
09-11-2008, 06:40 PM
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It's actually the same color, too. Just a low wing this time.