I pour out a 1/3 of a jug of advanced auto blue wiper fluid which is roughly 60%water 40%meth, then I add 5 bottles of heet. It gives me like about a 70%meth 30% water mix. Once tuned though its easy you just have to keep your mixture the same and you wont run into problems.

 

Methanol is not going to hurt anything in your motor. We been doing this for a long time.

 

Mix... Some people mix their own some use windshield washer fluid. Devils own makes a premix. You can find it elsewhere also. It should always be mixed with highly filtered or distilled water, the water helps also.

 

Once again, I realized it was a stupid post right after I posted.

 

You can certainly buy their mix, ive used it plenty of times and it works well. A lot of people run the washer fluid method since you don't have to wait for more to show up and you can also refill on the road at anytime!! For some people, this is necessary!

 

Yea true. I run either one. I know some people care cor some reason. They hate windshield washer fluid going into their motor. Ahh it doesn't matter, either way the mix contains water and meth, if you don't like the color you can change to a different brand haha.

 

Ok well I deserve that since I didn't specify...I meant the guy who hit 356HP with Meth...did HE do a before and after?

 

Yes.

The graph posted were both my tunes, one car was no meth, the other was meth. The 356 is a meth car on a different dyno.

 

They like E-85 mixes better.

 

I want to try this so bad

 

How much of a headaches is it to constantly fuel up? I assume your making the mix yourself right?

 

Seems like meth is the 2nd best bang for the buck next to a tune.

To whoever said Trifecta+Meth=FAIL...what's your reason for this statement?

 

I am not but a lot of the cars I have tuned lately are running it. Just put 5 gal of each E-85 and gas in the car when you fill up. Only one car has Dynoed so far but he made 30 more whp on E-47.5 than he did on 93 octane and that was keeping the boost levels the same just adjusting timing and PE Lambda.

No stations in Florida really we have like 3 in the entire state LOL.

 

ZZP put down 3 more whp with the same correction using E85 instead of Meth, seems about the same. Id like to see 50% E blend with Meth

 

I did not see ZZPs dyno sheets with meth. I never knew they ran meth in the car. I know they made 351 whp on E-85. I have one car running a 3 gph 50/50 water/meth nozzle and 50/50 E-85 and 91 octane. He will soon be strait E-85 and the water/meth.

 

No no, they have the E car, I have the meth. We put down 356 with meth, they put down 359 with E.

 

And we will be going back for more! I know we can equal that three extra horses

Its also even colder now, IM sure that alone will make a difference lol

 

Different car different dyno. IIRC meth showed a 10-12 whp gain. So far just going off one car on a mustang dyno gains were 30 whp 32 wrtq.

 

@ Oscar - Considering you showed up to the dyno, ran it 3x back to back and all were right on top of each other AND I didn't touch a thing while you were there....There's some more on the table

 

no comment LOL.....

 

What I am interested in is the gains so if his car made 12 whp less on just gas then that is the gain. I will have to wait for FF_ace and Drewbroo to dyno their cars next month to see the difference in their cars.

 

and, GO!

 

i would say operator/install error because not to many people have had problems that i know of

 

With bolt ons and a tune I put down 311whp on this dyno, Oscar put down 328, same mods and my tune, with Meth being the difference. I also realize the E85 or blend has a very similar effect, Im not denying that. But that is my point, you are going to get similar results based on the 3whp difference between Oscar and ZZP, both are load dyno's, not Dynojets.

We plan on trying a straight E85 tune or E blend on his car and we will be running on the same dyno as before. Those results over the Meth results should certainly be a good test

 

When you get it as strong on E85 as it is on E48 let me know how you do it. Mine pulls much harder & more dependably on the E48. Too much fuel in too small an injection window IMO on E85. >70%E here is slower by .4 sec 60-100, same boost DAL's & timing >25*.

Maybe the 4.45 axle ala ZZP unloads it enough that it pulls fine, I can only post my experience with the stock axle ratio.

Any other stock turbo's pulling a 4.4sec 60-100 without meth? (or without the bottle? lol) I should drive up to ZZP and dyno someday.