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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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The Damper 101 link above said something about once you start changing HP and RPMS, your stock damper wont be able to do its job properly anymore, especially if its "worn out". Is there really any definitive point that you would say the stock one shouldnt be counted on, aside from having issues as a result of it?
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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I kinda wonder if the ati one would hinder performance rather than make It better... it looks to be heavier than the stocker even...

Not that it would work for my car since they don't have the correct rib setup...
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GpB311
The Damper 101 link above said something about once you start changing HP and RPMS, your stock damper wont be able to do its job properly anymore, especially if its "worn out". Is there really any definitive point that you would say the stock one shouldnt be counted on, aside from having issues as a result of it?
the damper rubber o ring will travel out... here is how it is made.

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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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well, I'm getting the ATI SFI turbo balancer when I order the block from zzp. I don't know if it is the same that you guys are talking about
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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ATI build 5 (what they call 6 rib) rib standard drive Ecotec dampers. In the very late '90's,Kurt Urban built 1000 horsepower turbo Ecotecs for GM at the W2W facility, in Michigan; they used ATI dampers. ATI 6 rib (what they call 8 rib) dampers for SC motors came much later, around 2006 iirc.

Lightweight crank pullies are fail, and I am thinking some of the folks that get them and use them, maybe dont have their cars long enough, or the motors dont run long enough, to see the destructive results.

Good that the OP went with ZZP's recommendation. I dont see any other reputable Ecotect engine builders jumping up to deal with the .net crowd. ZZP is a good choice I beleive.

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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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ATI build 5 rib standard drive Ecotec dampers. In the very late '90's,Kurt Urban built 1000 horsepower turbo Ecotecs for GM at the W2W facility, in Michigan; they used ATI dampers. ATI 6 rib dampers for SC motors came much later, around 2006 iirc.

Lightweight crank pullies are fail, and I am thinking some of the folks that get them and use them, maybe dont have their cars long enough, or the motors dont run long enough, to see the destructive results.

Good that the OP went with ZZP's recommendation. I dont see any other reputable Ecotect engine builders jumping up to deal with the .net crowd. ZZP is a good choice I beleive.
Where can you buy these 5 ribbed ones? Seems you can't actually buy them from ATI at all.
Also are there any specs on these as far as how much they weigh?
Are there any dyno results to prove these HELP performance?
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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so whats the possibility of a cheaper the 500 6 rib udp thats dampened properly? idc about weight
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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My experience was that crank pulley doesn't fit, why because has leaks 2 times with upgrade mod and still. I send my crank to them and past already 2 month and nothing happen I will take legal action to them. also the leaks make me replace the seal 3 times 2 belt serpentine and alternator replacement because the oil leak. I got proof of the emails and cost of the parts.

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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
ATI build 5 rib standard drive Ecotec dampers. In the very late '90's,Kurt Urban built 1000 horsepower turbo Ecotecs for GM at the W2W facility, in Michigan; they used ATI dampers. ATI 6 rib dampers for SC motors came much later, around 2006 iirc.

Lightweight crank pullies are fail, and I am thinking some of the folks that get them and use them, maybe dont have their cars long enough, or the motors dont run long enough, to see the destructive results.

Good that the OP went with ZZP's recommendation. I dont see any other reputable Ecotect engine builders jumping up to deal with the .net crowd. ZZP is a good choice I beleive.
Powell are telling you the truth
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Ohhhhh Lick=Leak.

And best of luck with your lawsuit el_angelito.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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I was wondering the same... lol
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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ATI - Super DampersŽ for Serpentine Applications

8 rib for s/c ;6 ribs for na. weight, etc all there. try search next time
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
Where can you buy these 5 ribbed ones? Seems you can't actually buy them from ATI at all.
Are there any dyno results to prove these HELP performance?
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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OEM weighs 3.64 lbs and ATI weighs 6.75 lbs...

If you wanna go slow, ATI is the way to go!
lol it rhymes, should be there new slogan.
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
OEM weighs 3.64 lbs and ATI weighs 6.75 lbs...

If you wanna go slow, ATI is the way to go!
lol it rhymes, should be there new slogan.

You really don't understand the point of a Harmonic Damper, do you?

The fact is people who know a whole lot about race engines and building motors in general have come in here saying you don't want to get rid of the dampeners, but still people will try and say that there is nothing wrong with doing it....

The fact is they are on there for a reason, to absorb the vibrations that would normally be transmitted into places in the motor you don't want vibrating at certain frequencies.

I really don't care though, I know I won't be putting one of these lightweight parts on my car. If people still want to use them and run a risk of damaging their motors for the 2hp they may or may not provide, I honestly couldn't care any less.

And why do you need your motor's to rev faster, to impress the other kids at the stoplight next to you?
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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is it an overdrive pulley?
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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from what it looks like the ati is either over drive or underdrive not stock replacement. also modifications are needed to get it to fit
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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You really don't understand the point of a Harmonic Damper, do you?

The fact is people who know a whole lot about race engines and building motors in general have come in here saying you don't want to get rid of the dampeners, but still people will try and say that there is nothing wrong with doing it....

The fact is they are on there for a reason, to absorb the vibrations that would normally be transmitted into places in the motor you don't want vibrating at certain frequencies.

I really don't care though, I know I won't be putting one of these lightweight parts on my car. If people still want to use them and run a risk of damaging their motors for the 2hp they may or may not provide, I honestly couldn't care any less.

And why do you need your motor's to rev faster, to impress the other kids at the stoplight next to you?
You really dont understand that I understand the point of the harmonic damper do you?

I never said there's nothing wrong with doing it, I'm just posting my experience that nothing negative has happened to me or anyone I know.

Really it's there for a reason???! And I thought they would spend the money to put it on there for no reason at all..

Why do I need the motor to rev faster. Obviously you don't understand how a car performs. You have no idea how big of a difference that these make and until you actually have the experience that I have had with them I wouldn't expect you to understand, but then again I've also posted on here my experience which you have obviously failed to read. I love to impress the kids at the stoplight by revving my engine at them... really? are you 12?
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tundraboarder666
You really dont understand that I understand the point of the harmonic damper do you?

I never said there's nothing wrong with doing it, I'm just posting my experience that nothing negative has happened to me or anyone I know.

Really it's there for a reason???! And I thought they would spend the money to put it on there for no reason at all..

Why do I need the motor to rev faster. Obviously you don't understand how a car performs. You have no idea how big of a difference that these make and until you actually have the experience that I have had with them I wouldn't expect you to understand, but then again I've also posted on here my experience which you have obviously failed to read. I love to impress the kids at the stoplight by revving my engine at them... really? are you 12?
You're right, clearly we must all bow to your superior knowledge... You're right, I don't know how a car works either, must be some magical fairy dust **** under that thing that collects bugs in the front of my car.

Anyways, I made my points, I'm not getting into a childish argument. Sure, you haven't had problems, that's great. People also survive being shot, doesn't mean you should try it based on their opinion.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Why would someone recommend to others to be shot?
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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ohhhhh lick=leak.

And best of luck with your lawsuit el_angelito.
leakkkkkkssss
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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bump! I know I've opened this thread 1 year ago, but I was wondering if in the past year somebody have installed them or at least one of them and share their impression. Originally I was asking about the 2 crank pulleys, but I am curious also about the alternator pulley
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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i tried contacting them about it on their website but never got a reply that was a while back thou
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AyrtonSenna
bump! I know I've opened this thread 1 year ago, but I was wondering if in the past year somebody have installed them or at least one of them and share their impression. Originally I was asking about the 2 crank pulleys, but I am curious also about the alternator pulley
I've got one on my engine. It's a very nice unit. It requires a modified timing cover (which ZZP includes on their engine builds, but sells standalone too), as well as different length belt that you'll need to source yourself, being that it's a slightly different diameter. I can dig up information on the belt size that will work if you need. I posted up about it on my engine swap thread a while back.

I can't really make much more of a comment on it except that the engine runs well, and I have more than 10,000 miles on the engine/pulley so far.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stamina
I've got one on my engine. It's a very nice unit. It requires a modified timing cover (which ZZP includes on their engine builds, but sells standalone too), as well as different length belt that you'll need to source yourself, being that it's a slightly different diameter. I can dig up information on the belt size that will work if you need. I posted up about it on my engine swap thread a while back.

I can't really make much more of a comment on it except that the engine runs well, and I have more than 10,000 miles on the engine/pulley so far.
Do you have all 3 of the these?

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