Nearly Stock dyno and Trifecta Tuned dyno
at the end of the day its not about peak power but about the over all total power band
this kind of power band nets me more mph than a real peaky power band of 320 all cars are diff. but again peak numbers dont mean much but.....

my car also did this... so if we want to talk peaky numbers we can do that too.... LMAO I'm a tool sry.
this kind of power band nets me more mph than a real peaky power band of 320 all cars are diff. but again peak numbers dont mean much but.....
my car also did this... so if we want to talk peaky numbers we can do that too.... LMAO I'm a tool sry.
Vince is a former Microsoft programmer. He actually developed his own, unique, software language to allow the "GT Tuner" to communicate with the cars pcm. I can't remember the exact number, but Vince wrote several thousand lines of code to accomplish this. So he isn't just a guy who knows how to tune the cars pcm, he is one of those very few guys who actually writes computer language to allow companies, like the other company mentioned, to offer software packages.
As mentioned, the tune he offers must be reliable and safe. Not pushing the extreme limits for every last ounce of power, rather offering a tune with great drivability, great power and safe/reliable was the objective. For those customer wishing to schedule dyno time with Vince to further customize their tune, they need to simply call him and find a local dyno. Vince can remote, CUSTOM, tune their car from anywhere in the world. No other programmer/tuner is currently capable of offering this.
With the additional adjustments he makes, the air/fuel ratio he sets, was found to be optimum; on the local car, with local gas, on a local dyno in the winter with 30 degrees farenheight.
The same tune is going to yield different power and torque results on other dynos, as well as at different elevations, humidity, temperature, etc.
The only accurate way to compare one tune to another is with the same car on the same dyno on the same day. All else is speculation. Track results will also differ for the same reasons above. Back to back 1/4 mile runs with different tunes in the same car, with the same driver would need to be done.
I hope this helps.
Thanks everyone.
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I'm not sure how these rumors get started. I have posted the following several times but here it is again:
Vince is a former Microsoft programmer. He actually developed his own, unique, software language to allow the "GT Tuner" to communicate with the cars pcm. I can't remember the exact number, but Vince wrote several thousand lines of code to accomplish this. So he isn't just a guy who knows how to tune the cars pcm, he is one of those very few guys who actually writes computer language to allow companies, like the other company mentioned, to offer software packages.
As mentioned, the tune he offers must be reliable and safe. Not pushing the extreme limits for every last ounce of power, rather offering a tune with great drivability, great power and safe/reliable was the objective. For those customer wishing to schedule dyno time with Vince to further customize their tune, they need to simply call him and find a local dyno. Vince can remote, CUSTOM, tune their car from anywhere in the world. No other programmer/tuner is currently capable of offering this.
With the additional adjustments he makes, the air/fuel ratio he sets, was found to be optimum; on the local car, with local gas, on a local dyno in the winter with 30 degrees farenheight.
The same tune is going to yield different power and torque results on other dynos, as well as at different elevations, humidity, temperature, etc.
The only accurate way to compare one tune to another is with the same car on the same dyno on the same day. All else is speculation. Track results will also differ for the same reasons above. Back to back 1/4 mile runs with different tunes in the same car, with the same driver would need to be done.
I hope this helps.
Thanks everyone.
Vince is a former Microsoft programmer. He actually developed his own, unique, software language to allow the "GT Tuner" to communicate with the cars pcm. I can't remember the exact number, but Vince wrote several thousand lines of code to accomplish this. So he isn't just a guy who knows how to tune the cars pcm, he is one of those very few guys who actually writes computer language to allow companies, like the other company mentioned, to offer software packages.
As mentioned, the tune he offers must be reliable and safe. Not pushing the extreme limits for every last ounce of power, rather offering a tune with great drivability, great power and safe/reliable was the objective. For those customer wishing to schedule dyno time with Vince to further customize their tune, they need to simply call him and find a local dyno. Vince can remote, CUSTOM, tune their car from anywhere in the world. No other programmer/tuner is currently capable of offering this.
With the additional adjustments he makes, the air/fuel ratio he sets, was found to be optimum; on the local car, with local gas, on a local dyno in the winter with 30 degrees farenheight.
The same tune is going to yield different power and torque results on other dynos, as well as at different elevations, humidity, temperature, etc.
The only accurate way to compare one tune to another is with the same car on the same dyno on the same day. All else is speculation. Track results will also differ for the same reasons above. Back to back 1/4 mile runs with different tunes in the same car, with the same driver would need to be done.
I hope this helps.
Thanks everyone.
Vince has done some pretty incredible things with stock PCM's. He has an LS1 Camaro and manipulated the programming in the stock PCM to allow a nitrous system to opperate. All PCM controlled through tuning without needing window switches. Basically, when the nitrous system is engaged, the fuel pressure increases automatically. We have talked about this type of system for th Cobalts but no plans at this time. But you never know.
Yes and my stock run was with a recently installed DP (well 2 weeks ago) and then drove less then 100 miles before dyno (and most of those miles where too the dyno). I still gained 80wtq (same as yours) and 32whp....You see any other stock dyno in the 260/250 range? Only when mods where recenly added. And I thought Bob was your tuner, just figured you going through his course.
I've had the car going on 8months.....I'm at 4108 miles and drove the car almost 400 miles when I picked it up.
I drive enough for work in the company car (over 40k a year)
I've had the car going on 8months.....I'm at 4108 miles and drove the car almost 400 miles when I picked it up.
I drive enough for work in the company car (over 40k a year)
im sorry, when my cars all produce higher trap speeds and lower et's at the track than canned cars. i think that says something for myself. so if you feel the need to be blind to the fact you have a canned tune. be my guest.
whats the cam angle's at 5500 rpms on the intake side on the trifecta tune?
a great mystery?
everyone on here is quick to jump zzp/intense's **** about lsj tunes. what do you think you're doing with the nut suckling of trifecta's?
whats the cam angle's at 5500 rpms on the intake side on the trifecta tune?
a great mystery?
everyone on here is quick to jump zzp/intense's **** about lsj tunes. what do you think you're doing with the nut suckling of trifecta's?
ya...vince did what hp tuners COULDNT do for the L61....he is the ONLY tuner becuase he can do what he can with his program...and let me tell ya what...it is something else to watch the guy go through streaming code and edit it to tune the car lol
Vince has done some pretty incredible things with stock PCM's. He has an LS1 Camaro and manipulated the programming in the stock PCM to allow a nitrous system to opperate. All PCM controlled through tuning without needing window switches. Basically, when the nitrous system is engaged, the fuel pressure increases automatically. We have talked about this type of system for th Cobalts but no plans at this time. But you never know. 

doesnt have it anymore though...just the impalla and the corvette
Last edited by NWAE Cobalt; May 16, 2009 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
hey guys, imnew to the whole SS world and the electronic tuning...just wanna put that out there before i chime in. if the trifecta tune is makin the majority of you guys runnin rich, cant you just get it dyno'ed and have that adjusted by slightly increasing boost so the motor is gettin more air?
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