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amwworks 05-16-2013 06:30 PM

POWER STEERING? No START?
 
Hello all!

Last night I took a small cruise in my 09 SS/TC. She was running like a champ so I decided to put some fresh gas in her. I pulled in the gas station filled her up with 93 hopped back in turned the key in the ignition and nothing. All of the dash light s cut of and she didn't attempt to turn over. Now keep in mind. A couple of weeks ago I put a brand new battery in. I got out checked the battery post to make sure everything was tight and it was. I hopped back in and tried to starts her again. This time my check engine light was flashing and it read POWER STEERING on the dash. Still no start. So I pulled out my portable scanner and it read "operations error". After I tried to start in again. This time it turned over with no check engine light but wouldn't start. I disconnected the batter for ten minutes and tried in again. No go. I just sat there pissed about to call AAA then I decided to turn it over again and started!

The only mods I've done is stage 1 and a k&n intake. What gives! Is this a common problem. Has this happened to anyone else. I cant seem to recreate the problem. I scared to drive it and be stranded again. There a video I took of the dash while it was acting crazy.

amwworks 05-16-2013 06:33 PM


turbosmart4 05-16-2013 06:46 PM

When this happens to me its because of my floor mat getting on the way

amwworks 05-16-2013 07:15 PM

I don't have floor matts

YelloEye 05-16-2013 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by turbosmart4 (Post 7042578)
When this happens to me its because of my floor mat getting on the way

Here, you forgot these [sarcasm][/sarcasm]


All seriousness though, that sounds like a fried ECU or on it's way to being there.

LNFTX 05-16-2013 07:32 PM

Definitely not a common problem.
there was a power steering recall do you know if it has been taken care of on this car?
Do you still have any warranty?

Jrhdpaintball 05-16-2013 07:37 PM

thats funny. mine is an 2006 and its doing the same thing...power steering message just came on a few days ago, and just recently it wouldnt start. battery and clutch posisition siwtich is good.

i was going to replace the starter tomorrow, and take it in for the recall monday.

YelloEye 05-16-2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Jrhdpaintball (Post 7042648)
thats funny. mine is an 2006 and its doing the same thing...power steering message just came on a few days ago, and just recently it wouldnt start. battery and clutch posisition siwtich is good.

i was going to replace the starter tomorrow, and take it in for the recall monday.

Is the CEL light flickering like in his video? That's the reason I'm saying it's the ECU.

amwworks 05-16-2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by LNFTX (Post 7042638)
Definitely not a common problem.
there was a power steering recall do you know if it has been taken care of on this car?
Do you still have any warranty?

I had the power steering recall done a while ago.


Originally Posted by YelloEye (Post 7042627)


All seriousness though, that sounds like a fried ECU or on it's way to being there.

I still have time left on my power train warranty. I wonder if the ECU is covered under that.

Whitnith 05-16-2013 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jrhdpaintball (Post 7042648)
thats funny. mine is an 2006 and its doing the same thing...power steering message just came on a few days ago, and just recently it wouldnt start. battery and clutch posisition siwtich is good.

i was going to replace the starter tomorrow, and take it in for the recall monday.

Check out your alternator first...

Mine went two weeks ago (stranding me at Road America, at that...) and my power steering was the first thing affected when it went, power steering message and all. I've had the recall done.

New alt is in, and the steering is fantastic.

Jrhdpaintball 05-16-2013 09:03 PM

Oh wow no cel flickering. Nothing on actually, just the power steering message.

Did you check the clutch switch too.? You can bypass the switch by un plugging the switch and putting a paperclip between the two pins inside the connector.mdont keep it there long just testing reasons.

tomj77 05-16-2013 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by amwworks (Post 7042564)
Hello all!

Last night I took a small cruise in my 09 SS/TC. She was running like a champ so I decided to put some fresh glass in her. I pulled in the gas station filled her up with 93 hopped back in turned the key in the ignition and nothing. All of the dash light s cut of and she didn't attempt to turn over. Now keep in mind. A couple of weeks ago I put a brand new battery in. I got out checked the battery post to make sure everything was tight and it was. I hopped back in and tried to starts her again. This time my check engine light was flashing and it read POWER STEERING on the dash. Still no start. So I pulled out my portable scanner and it read "operations error". After I tried to start in again. This time it turned over with no check engine light but wouldn't start. I disconnected the batter for ten minutes and tried in again. No go. I just sat there pissed about to call AAA then I decided to turn it over again and started!

The only mods I've done is stage 1 and a k&n intake. What gives! Is this a common problem. Has this happened to anyone else. I can seem to recreate the problem. I scared to drive it and be stranded again. There a video I took of the dash while it was acting crazy.

pretty sure ur problem is that Fresh Glass u put into her, I don't know if u liquefied it to melting point or what, but either way, cars don't respond well to liquid or solid glass in their fuel system. probably have to take everything apart and get that glass out of the lines, tank, pumps and motor. just get a new car, cheaper and easier. lol

amwworks 05-16-2013 09:30 PM

Any other suggestions

amwworks 05-16-2013 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by tomj77 (Post 7042783)
pretty sure ur problem is that Fresh Glass u put into her, I don't know if u liquefied it to melting point or what, but either way, cars don't respond well to liquid or solid glass in their fuel system. probably have to take everything apart and get that glass out of the lines, tank, pumps and motor. just get a new car, cheaper and easier. lol

I typed that whole thing from my phone. Damn autocorrect!

LNFTX 05-16-2013 09:36 PM

I'm on mobile so I do not know how to post links but if you search for your problems using Google there are a couple of threads on this site with your common problems and most of them seem to surround a bad ground wire or short

amwworks 05-16-2013 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jrhdpaintball (Post 7042750)
Oh wow no cel flickering. Nothing on actually, just the power steering message.

Did you check the clutch switch too.? You can bypass the switch by un plugging the switch and putting a paperclip between the two pins inside the connector.mdont keep it there long just testing reasons.

No I haven't checked the clutch switch. I'll do that when I get off. Another thing is I haven't been about to recreate it either. It starts right up now

PrincessTurbo 05-16-2013 11:32 PM

you mean to tell me you havent tried the good old pull the positive off the battery and reset it ?

dieGone 05-16-2013 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo (Post 7042908)
you mean to tell me you havent tried the good old pull the positive off the battery and reset it ?

He said he unplugged it 10 minutes and nothing.. Sounds like a serious issue. Something you did messed it up if it was running perfectly.

andrewcarr1993 05-17-2013 12:09 AM

Just so you're aware you can just pull both leads touch them together for 10 seconds and it accomplishes the same thing.

amwworks 05-17-2013 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by dieGone (Post 7042918)
He said he unplugged it 10 minutes and nothing.. Sounds like a serious issue. Something you did messed it up if it was running perfectly.

I only put gas in it. I don't think a fresh fill up will cause this problem. This was random. I tried starting it today and it starts right up. No codes or freeze data.


Originally Posted by andrewcarr1993 (Post 7042941)
Just so you're aware you can just pull both leads touch them together for 10 seconds and it accomplishes the same thing.

Nice to know

southal cobalt 05-17-2013 12:27 AM

check fuses. crank fuse especially. happened to me twice and car would shut off and show power steering. the crank fuse wasnt sitting properly

amwworks 05-17-2013 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by southal cobalt (Post 7042959)
check fuses. crank fuse especially. happened to me twice and car would shut off and show power steering. the crank fuse wasnt sitting properly

I check all the fuses under the hood and everything was good.

tomj77 05-17-2013 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by amwworks (Post 7042793)
I typed that whole thing from my phone. Damn autocorrect!

Lol I feel ur pain

ECaulk 05-17-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by amwworks (Post 7043466)
I check all the fuses under the hood and everything was good.

.

Did you check with a fuse tester or just looking at it?

amwworks 05-17-2013 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by blackonblack07 (Post 7043669)
.

Did you check with a fuse tester or just looking at it?

Fuse tester


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