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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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Safe lnf build

Hey guys, I'm looking at adding some bolt ons then getting a tune. But I'm unsure about what to get since the car will be daily driven. I was thinking
K&N Typhoon, Zzp fmic, injen charge pipes, and gm sensors, 3" catback exhaust. Is there any advise you guys could give me? Will I be safe? Will I need something else? I'll also be adding a aeroforce inceptor gauge
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 09:20 PM
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That's pretty good for a daily. Just make sure you add a good tune from a good tuner my personal preference is kmo43
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Nobody is safe with a bolted and tuned lnf prowling the streets
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 11:02 PM
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Honsestly unless you just want to spend the cash, I would mod your airbox, and keep the factory catback since you aren't pushing power. The best money spent is on the tune and a less restrictive down pipe. Factory exhaust is pretty free flowing at 320whp and below.
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS
Honsestly unless you just want to spend the cash, I would mod your airbox, and keep the factory catback since you aren't pushing power. The best money spent is on the tune and a less restrictive down pipe. Factory exhaust is pretty free flowing at 320whp and below.
I would have to agree. Just be prepared for when the stock intercooler cracks
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
I would have to agree. Just be prepared for when the stock intercooler cracks
As long as the cars lowered and the tune is below 24psi I wouldn't be extremely worried about the stock intercooler cracking.
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
I would have to agree. Just be prepared for when the stock intercooler cracks
I already have k&n typhoon, and a turboxs RFL Exhaust, if I just added gms1 sensor injen charge pipes and tune would that be Safe?
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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Yes it would be safe. You did get rid of the stock downpipe though correct? That's the highest hp difference you can add.
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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Yes it would be safe. You did get rid of the stock downpipe though correct? That's the highest hp difference you can add.
I still have stock dp I have strict emission laws in my state and can't get a dp
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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I still have stock dp I have strict emission laws in my state and can't get a dp
Not even one with a cat?

The stock downpipe has some serious restrictions. It's not really the cats causing the issues.
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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I wouldn't waste money on catback if you aren't even doing the dp.
Mod your airbox and get a tune. Best bang for the $
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slapbetcommissioner
I wouldn't waste money on catback if you aren't even doing the dp.
Mod your airbox and get a tune. Best bang for the $
This^ they make dp's with race cats in them.
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS
This^ they make dp's with race cats in them.
Do you think if I got the zzp dp with a 400 cell cat it would be good on emissions? And give me the same power as a catless or close to same?
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Farmbaltss
Do you think if I got the zzp dp with a 400 cell cat it would be good on emissions? And give me the same power as a catless or close to same?
Depending on your States Law's you might not actually be able to change the cat at all.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 10:51 AM
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Id be wary about changing the cat. Know your states laws first. Some states say you cant touch the cat at least for like 150k miles. You could get a highflow cat like that zzp 400 cell one then hold on to the stock downpipe. You could always swap the dp for emissions testing days.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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As others said, DP if you can get away with it. Tune is absolutely #1 for both power and reliability. I bought HP Tuners and taught myself and tuned it myself. Not for everyone, but not impossibly complicated either.

As far as the stock intercooler and top plastic charge pipe, I kept both thinking they might go the distance. At my 23-24psi tune the end cap of the stock IC blew apart and cost me a $250 towing bill. That was about 8 weeks after I tuned it. You would think I would have enough sense at that point to change the upper plastic charge pipe, but I left it hoping I could repair it on the roadside if and when it ever went. 10 months after the tune (just recently) the upper charge pipe split open right on the top like many others have pictured on these forums. Was lucky enough to limp it into Walmart parking lot and tape it up with Gorilla tape to avoid another towing bill. So IMHO best to change both those items with any HP tune to be safe and reliable.

BTW, I going from the GMS1 tune (was on the car when I bought it a little over a year ago) to the HP Tune was night and day. Amazing what "just" a tune does on these cars, even over a factory performance tune. You really don't need a ton of parts thrown at it on a DD to make enough power to be very fun (and surprise a lot of high dollar performance cars).
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:17 AM
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If I had a complete stock LNF that I was going to DD, I would do K&N drop-in stock air box, catted downpipe, and a conservative 23psi tune. Will be safe and still make a fun enjoyable DD.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by royce777
If I had a complete stock LNF that I was going to DD, I would do K&N drop-in stock air box, catted downpipe, and a conservative 23psi tune. Will be safe and still make a fun enjoyable DD.
Same except I would go catless if it was allowed.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by califcarm
As others said, DP if you can get away with it. Tune is absolutely #1 for both power and reliability. I bought HP Tuners and taught myself and tuned it myself. Not for everyone, but not impossibly complicated either.

As far as the stock intercooler and top plastic charge pipe, I kept both thinking they might go the distance. At my 23-24psi tune the end cap of the stock IC blew apart and cost me a $250 towing bill. That was about 8 weeks after I tuned it. You would think I would have enough sense at that point to change the upper plastic charge pipe, but I left it hoping I could repair it on the roadside if and when it ever went. 10 months after the tune (just recently) the upper charge pipe split open right on the top like many others have pictured on these forums. Was lucky enough to limp it into Walmart parking lot and tape it up with Gorilla tape to avoid another towing bill. So IMHO best to change both those items with any HP tune to be safe and reliable.

BTW, I going from the GMS1 tune (was on the car when I bought it a little over a year ago) to the HP Tune was night and day. Amazing what "just" a tune does on these cars, even over a factory performance tune. You really don't need a ton of parts thrown at it on a DD to make enough power to be very fun (and surprise a lot of high dollar performance cars).
Thanks for the info! My car came with the k&n typhoon and I just added exhaust, I guess I'll just add Injencharge pipes and a tune from a tuner here in Utah! I'll see what numbers I pull
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS
Same except I would go catless if it was allowed.
You're not losing much by going catted.

Plus your car won't smell like gas and you're polluting a lot less. I'd go catted if I didn't find a catless one locally.
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A true safe lnf build is not to mod it at all. I said the same thing...and well I got zzp catted dp, intercooler, upper and lower charge pipes, zfr 6758, south bend stage 4 clutch, new flywheel, gms1 sensors, turboxs fl exhaust, bps short throw, and tuned at zzp. Once you start, your going to want to do more trust me.

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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 10blkss
A true safe lnf build is not to mod it all. I said the same thing...and well I got zzp catted dp, intercooler, upper and lower charge pipes, zfr 6758, south bend stage 4 clutch, new flywheel, gms1 sensors, turboxs fl exhaust, bps short throw, and tuned at zzp. Once you start, your going to want to do more trust me.
That was my issue

When I bought it I got it tuned a few weeks after. On a 90* day it put down 230/218 stock, and just a tune brough it to 283/314. Then the bug hit and now a few bolt on and turbo swap later I'm happy at the moment, but I'm sure that'll change again in due time.
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