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In all the LNF will be better. We all know it. We probably just wont admit that we jumped the gun on the SC version. But for myself. I would rather have a SC car than a TC. But power wise, get ready SC's
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They should've kept the SC, its just American and non-rice (IMO!!!) for a American car to have its power from a fat V8 or a whiny ass supercharger tearin up the streets.
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Originally Posted by M-Dub
(Post 1621885)
Okay here ya go 2.85" pulley, toon, downpipe, 2.5" exhaust, intake!
No methanol, no cooling mods! Just Area47's tunes! http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/scan0009.jpg The LNF might not be underrated for HP but it is underrated for Torque. This engine makes more than 260 ft-lbs stock for sure. The BSR tune puts it at 330 ft-lbs (crank) on just the tune, and the announced as of yesterday GM Stage II makes 310 ft-lbs.
Originally Posted by BULLETSSMOKE
(Post 1625684)
They should've kept the SC, its just American and non-rice (IMO!!!) for a American car to have its power from a fat V8 or a whiny ass supercharger tearin up the streets.
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Originally Posted by JCswoosher2
(Post 1625264)
In all the LNF will be better. We all know it. We probably just wont admit that we jumped the gun on the SC version. But for myself. I would rather have a SC car than a TC. But power wise, get ready SC's
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Originally Posted by brentil
(Post 1626807)
This graph shows the main benefit of the LNF over the LSJ. Even with all those mods on the LSJ a bone stock LNF makes more Torque and makes it sooner. My RWD LNF put down 243 ft-lbs to the rear wheels stock, and 90% of that is available at 1500 RPM.
The LNF might not be underrated for HP but it is underrated for Torque. This engine makes more than 260 ft-lbs stock for sure. The BSR tune puts it at 330 ft-lbs (crank) on just the tune, and the announced as of yesterday GM Stage II makes 310 ft-lbs. You know what's funny, the LSJ was made in Europe and shipped to America, the LNF is made in America. :usa: :D any of the sols/sky's with the lnf's int he 12's yet?!?! |
....why does everyone think that turbos are ricey? ever heard of the mustang svo, the buick grand national, the turbo firebird/TA's, etc? some great great cars, and what a surprise the some of the top cars to modify for their time. Turbo's are as japanese as front wheel drive is. I doubt alot of you have driven a good turbo car.
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Originally Posted by Area47
(Post 1626934)
small turbo's do that
:D any of the sols/sky's with the lnf's int he 12's yet?!?! |
Originally Posted by brentil
(Post 1627177)
Not yet, people are still trying to get the tuning and mods down right. The Hahn Stage IV base Solstice is in the 11s though with a bolt on Turbo kit, so I'm pretty sure we can do 12s once we get everything down with the engine.
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Originally Posted by blk06ss/sc
(Post 1621892)
what about swapping with a srt4 turbo
I see the gt3071 being a really good turbo upgrade, some lag but great power |
Originally Posted by memphisr24
(Post 1627237)
Have you seen an srt4 turbo? It's about the size of my palm...
I see the gt3071 being a really good turbo upgrade, some lag but great power |
Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 1626985)
....why does everyone think that turbos are ricey? ever heard of the mustang svo, the buick grand national, the turbo firebird/TA's,
Great cars (ugh... minus the ford! hehe:lol: ) |
Originally Posted by sn1p3rw0lf
(Post 1639082)
:twothumbs :twothumbs
Great cars (ugh... minus the ford! hehe:lol: ) |
Originally Posted by Pyros777
(Post 1626842)
I'll admit I jumped the gun on the S/C version, knowing that the turbo wasnt far off. When I try to visualize trading in for the SS T/C though, I just can't bring myself to do it! I love my S/C whine!!
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Originally Posted by Brandon97Z
(Post 1619103)
Show me an LSJ running almost 260whp from a tune alone. The guys running those numbers with the LSJ's are running delicate tunes w/ full bolt-ons and meth injection. Not to mention the Cobalt with the LNF will see higher numbers due to less drivetrain loss.
Originally Posted by brentil
(Post 1627177)
Not yet, people are still trying to get the tuning and mods down right. The Hahn Stage IV base Solstice is in the 11s though with a bolt on Turbo kit, so I'm pretty sure we can do 12s once we get everything down with the engine.
Originally Posted by JCswoosher2
(Post 1625264)
In all the LNF will be better. We all know it. We probably just wont admit that we jumped the gun on the SC version. But for myself. I would rather have a SC car than a TC. But power wise, get ready SC's
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
(Post 1639216)
That's also a 2.4L solstice (LE5?). Not a LNF engine. The 2.4L I wouldn't doubt would be much easier to get into those numbers. That car has between 400-500rwhp.
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There are Solstices in the 9's, but they aren't running I4's, lol.
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Originally Posted by sn1p3rw0lf
(Post 1639082)
:twothumbs :twothumbs
Great cars (ugh... minus the ford! hehe:lol: ) |
Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
(Post 1639874)
I take it youve never seen what the lil turbo 2.3's can do , lol ....especially when their in a light notch . The original 84-86 SVO's are badass :twothumbs
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Originally Posted by SpecialK
(Post 1640150)
As long as they have at least a boost controller. ;) In stock form they were pathetic.
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Originally Posted by SpecialK
(Post 1640150)
As long as they have at least a boost controller. ;) In stock form they were pathetic.
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*cough* GM RULEZ!! *cough* :lol:
I uh, meant GM....fanatik, as in me..That's my story and I'm stickin to it |
i personaly not a fan of numbers and not getting to drive it/see it myself. until then i'm not a fan.
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
(Post 1641621)
*cough* GM RULEZ!! *cough* :lol:
I uh, meant GM....fanatik, as in me..That's my story and I'm stickin to it |
Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 1641972)
mmmm i'd like to put an sho against a same gen trans am on a road course.... svo = 40 trillion miles out in front.
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gm, is this just more hype, or is this for real? (havent been on here in like 6 weeks)
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Has anyone heard the numbers as far as what the stock LNF internals are good up to HPwise?
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 1641972)
mmmm i'd like to put an sho against a same gen trans am on a road course.... svo = 40 trillion miles out in front.
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Originally Posted by blk06ss/sc
(Post 1621892)
what about swapping with a srt4 turbo
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Originally Posted by XM15
(Post 1618623)
True, but at least the LNF cobalt guys won't have to be the guinea pigs like the LSJ guys are. They can look and see what works and doesn't work from the RL and GXP owners.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 1641312)
pathetic compared to what? they would smoke any of the competition on the road course EASILY.
Compared to a moped. :lol: And as far as a road course is concerned they were some of the lightest and best balanced stangs around yes. But one bad move on a drivers part adn they lost all their momentum. |
i would go and buy ss/tc but after putting 3,000$ mods in my car....not sure that i wanna go and buy this now
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Originally Posted by lewisb13
(Post 1645787)
Has anyone heard the numbers as far as what the stock LNF internals are good up to HPwise?
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Originally Posted by Archie
(Post 2056349)
So far, it has made 330hp and 425ft/lbs with just a tune by GM.:guns:
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 2056764)
just a tune? i doubt that very much.
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Originally Posted by BULLETSSMOKE
(Post 1625684)
They should've kept the SC, its just American and non-rice (IMO!!!) for a American car to have its power from a fat V8 or a whiny ass supercharger tearin up the streets.
On topic, its cool. If I didn't already have the SC, I would be looking at one of these. |
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
(Post 2056771)
tune and 3 inch catless. its on their site
Originally Posted by EtyrnuSS
(Post 2056839)
Well, you can blame our "wonderful" enviromentalist hippie I-want-to-tell-you-how-to-live asshats and congress for the demise of supercharged production cars. ZR1 excepted of course;).
On topic, its cool. If I didn't already have the SC, I would be looking at one of these. |
Maybe I should have been more specific.
From the C&D article on the TC: The SS Supercharged had to be discontinued because its blown four didn’t comply with emissions regulations for 2008. Maybe not all SC cars, but ours, the SC 3800 series engine, both due to this. |
Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 1639111)
still one of the stronger turbo 4 cylinders to ever hit the market, and it started quite a trend of performance 4 cylinders...i'd say a pretty great car for its time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_RS200 |
The turbo is tiny. It's similar to the Borg Warner K04. It'll be one think you'll want to upgrade down the road... Right now folks in the GXP/Redline community are working on turbo alternatives. The retarded GM flanges don't help. Working on that too. :O)
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
(Post 2056883)
what are you talking about? the ss/sc didn't fail to meet new specs just because it's supercharged...there are ALOT of supercharged vehicles still. |
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