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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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SS/TC rear sway bar

Hey all, I'm curious if an aftermarket rear sway is worth getting for my new TC? Or is the car setup good enough that a rear sway isn't going to help it a whole lot . I know people that had them on the SC's and really could tell a difference.

If anyone has a TTR or progressive RS please let me know how you like it ..... thanks.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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ttr i love it
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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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ttr i love it
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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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OTTP>TTR

For a zillion reasons.

I will go with the ones that most people care about:

Lighter AND stiffer.

I sold my TTR bar for an OTTP hardcore bar
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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Ours is 15lbs, IF the hollow bar is 1/2 the weight it is 7.5 lbs

Come on that is 1 GALLON of gas of weight.

On a 2800 LBS car 7.5 LBS is 0.26%..... Not even 1% of the car weight (it is 1/4 of a %)
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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Ours is 15lbs, IF the hollow bar is 1/2 the weight it is 7.5 lbs

Come on that is 1 GALLON of gas of weight.

On a 2800 LBS car 7.5 LBS is 0.26%..... Not even 1% of the car weight (it is 1/4 of a %)
Unsprung mass.

And your bar is 18.5 lbs

Ask me how I know

Not saying your bar sucks, the OTTP one is better.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Unsprung mass.

And your bar is 18.5 lbs

Ask me how I know

Not saying your bar sucks, the OTTP one is better.
How can it be 18.5LBS?

Shipping weight of the Box, bar, hardware kit, nut tab plates, 4 bolts (and Fed Ex label) is 17.9 LBS

Take away the box, packaging, bolts and plates and it is a tad UNDER 16lbs for the welded, coated bar.

Just the bar alone, before it is welded it is 15.0 LBS

I think "we" should know, we designed it.




Not a big deal, either way, as we are again, only talking a few lbs here. Put on a T shirt and not a hoody...
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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roflmao!!!!!!
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
How can it be 18.5LBS?

Shipping weight of the Box, bar, hardware kit, nut tab plates, 4 bolts (and Fed Ex label) is 17.9 LBS

Take away the box, packaging, bolts and plates and it is a tad UNDER 16lbs for the welded, coated bar.

Just the bar alone, before it is welded it is 15.0 LBS

I think "we" should know, we designed it.




Not a big deal, either way, as we are again, only talking a few lbs here. Put on a T shirt and not a hoody...
When I weighed to ship it to CA WITHOUT the box, the bar/brackets/bolts was 18.5 lbs. I sold it to HunterXero89 I think his name is. I also had one of the first bars made in the GB of the bars. I drove that bar hard for thousands of miles.

And when I sit in my seat with a hoody on...I am sprung mass. When you hang extra weight over the rear axle...and you're still are missing the point that the OTTP bar is more stiff.

If "you" designed it, then maybe you'll be humble enough to take some constructive criticism.

Your bar does not suck...I ran it for a long time...and I am not attack your product, so don't defend facts because your little feeling got hurt.

Some products are better than others. Period.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
When I weighed to ship it to CA WITHOUT the box, the bar/brackets/bolts was 18.5 lbs. I sold it to HunterXero89 I think his name is. I also had one of the first bars made in the GB of the bars. I drove that bar hard for thousands of miles.

And when I sit in my seat with a hoody on...I am sprung mass. When you hang extra weight over the rear axle...and you still are missing the point that the OTTP bar is more stiff.

If "you" designed it, then maybe you'll be humble enough to take some constructive criticism.

Your bar does not suck...I ran it for a long time...and I am not attack your product, so don't defend facts because your little feeling got hurt.

Some products are better than others. Period.

OTTP bar (1.25") is more stiff yes, the OTTP 1.0" is not as stiff, per Maven (we agree with our calculations Mavens statement is correct).

Again we are talking about 1-2 lbs here, scales may vary, but we ship USPS and Fed EX, both scales (2 different) both read 17.9 LBS here packaged complete.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
OTTP bar (1.25") is more stiff yes, the OTTP 1.0" is not as stiff, per Maven (we agree with our calculations Mavens statement is correct).

Again we are talking about 1-2 lbs here, scales may vary, but we ship USPS and Fed EX, both scales (2 different) both read 17.9 LBS here packaged complete.
Maven is correct.



He is the one who told me, and I watched him post it a few times.

And lighter is lighter.

Think about certain engineers and what they do to take off 1-2 lbs...I personally think any drag racer with a sway bar is all kinds of lol...but each to his own.

The TTR bar holds up well and as long as you don't chip the paint off it, will not rust
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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1-2LBS is not going to make a difference its not like we are talking about rims or something that it makes a big difference its a sway bar. i have ran the ttr rear sway for almost 10k miles and i love it have done 2 auto-x on it and would recommend it to any1. ottp overcharges alot for their products imo. 70bucks more for a product thats almost identical not worth it, let alone the 30+ on shipping.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Maven is correct.



He is the one who told me, and I watched him post it a few times.

And lighter is lighter.

Think about certain engineers and what they do to take off 1-2 lbs...I personally think any drag racer with a sway bar is all kinds of lol...but each to his own.

The TTR bar holds up well and as long as you don't chip the paint off it, will not rust
By all means if you are going to gut your car and that is your focus, we couldn't agree more. However 99.9% do not gut their car or go to this extent.

Rocks chip powder coat (hard to have any coating hold up to rocks from the tires hitting it) and chromoly can rust.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
1-2LBS is not going to make a difference its not like we are talking about rims or something that it makes a big difference its a sway bar. i have ran the ttr rear sway for almost 10k miles and i love it have done 2 auto-x on it and would recommend it to any1. ottp overcharges alot for their products imo. 70bucks more for a product thats almost identical not worth it, let alone the 30+ on shipping.
yeah not worth it
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
1-2LBS is not going to make a difference its not like we are talking about rims or something that it makes a big difference its a sway bar. i have ran the ttr rear sway for almost 10k miles and i love it have done 2 auto-x on it and would recommend it to any1. ottp overcharges alot for their products imo. 70bucks more for a product thats almost identical not worth it, let alone the 30+ on shipping.
Stock tires and wheels are what? close to 30 lbs each? That is 4.2% of the over all car weight. (assuming 2800 lb car). The bars diffence is about 0.26%. I think there are bigger fish to fry first.


Shouldn't shipping be LESS being it is lighter?
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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the ttr rear sway is a great product and if u are really so concerned about weight then go get one custom made to ur standards. but the ttr is perfectly fine for 95% of the drivers on here since most dont track/auto-x their cars
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idk they overcharge alot for shipping... i paid 22 bucks cheapest for injectors???? lol
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
Shouldn't shipping be LESS being it is lighter?
lol not with ottp they charge up the ass on shipping, they were gonna charge about 25bucks to ship injectors LOL

Originally Posted by glen229
idk they overcharge alot for shipping... i paid 22 bucks cheapest for injectors???? lol
lol beat me to it, but ya ik. ik for a fact thats a 8-10ship its a joke

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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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the ttr rear sway is a great product and if u are really so concerned about weight then go get one custom made to ur standards. but the ttr is perfectly fine for 95% of the drivers on here since most dont track/auto-x their cars
Agreed, it doesn't matter which bar you get. They will both do close to the same thing.

Stop the bickering everyone. Pick your price vs. performance and buy whatever you think is best for your application.

I had the TTR bar and loved it on my 2.2 LS, but I sold it before I got the SS/TC, not sure what it would change.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
lol not with ottp they charge up the ass on shipping, they were gonna charge about 25bucks to ship injectors LOL


lol beat me to it, but ya ik. ik for a fact thats a 8-10ship its a joke
yeah i paid 22. and the box was wiked small
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
1-2LBS is not going to make a difference its not like we are talking about rims or something that it makes a big difference its a sway bar. i have ran the ttr rear sway for almost 10k miles and i love it have done 2 auto-x on it and would recommend it to any1. ottp overcharges alot for their products imo. 70bucks more for a product thats almost identical not worth it, let alone the 30+ on shipping.
209+shipping will get you the hardcore bar which is a good amount stiffer.

OH NOEZ


I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU OR A VENDOR.

And TTR, no I don't gut my car...but if I am adding random pole on my car, and can get a lighter version...guess what?



I will, and it being lighter AND stiffer than the bar I had on there...makes it better.



Period.

Stones will chip it...so will hitting some of the Cobalt sized potholes in Camden
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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do u even auto-x or track ur car?
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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wow, so why are you so hyped up about this steddy?
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Old May 22, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
do u even auto-x or track ur car?
I don't know anything.



Whether I do or not is irrelevant to this conversation.

Every time someone says another product is better than TTR's, they get all upset...and they can do it, but man I think it is pathetic.
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im just saying cuz u would never feel a TRUE difference in them unless u did one of those. the only difference u may feel is in ur head....im saying ottp is so over priced on shipping its a joke, so u mine as well pay about 80bucks less to buy a ttr sway thats fine for 95% of ppl on here
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