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Old 02-27-2011, 02:07 PM
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Thinking about ZZP Turbo Upgrade kit...

I hear this kit is reliable, but outside of that what else do I need to ensure it's reliable. Daily driving will be the goal, so 400 WHP will be nice for a DD.

So in addition to the turbo kit itself what else do I need to ensure reliability?

I'm assuming...
  • Wiseco Piston
  • 78# Valve Springs
  • Connecting Rods
  • Motor Mounts
  • Cryo Tranny
  • ZZP Stage 4+ Clutch
  • Spark Plugs

So I'm imagining a total cost of about $5000 in preparation. That's 2 years in savings maybe more.

I want the most stable system I could get. I don't want any stress on the components.

Thanks
Old 02-27-2011, 02:10 PM
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Damn mike lol your tax return must have been nice u have been going all out lately! And I think all u need is a good clutch and some #78 springs and retainers should be good...
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Building the bottom end isn't completely necessary unless you really want to beat on it and crank up the boost. The stock bottom end will be fine if you want to stay in the 400whp range.

Valve springs will be needed if you want to raise up the rev limiter, and a clutch is going to be needed for sure.

As long as you're smart with the car and have a good tune, you shouldn't have any reliability issues at all with that kit.
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lol that's already spent haha. I'm saving for this mod
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Originally Posted by vahdyx
I hear this kit is reliable, but outside of that what else do I need to ensure it's reliable. Daily driving will be the goal, so 400 WHP will be nice for a DD.

So in addition to the turbo kit itself what else do I need to ensure reliability?

I'm assuming...
  • Wiseco Piston
  • 78# Valve Springs
  • Connecting Rods
  • Motor Mounts
  • Cryo Tranny
  • ZZP Stage 4+ Clutch
  • Spark Plugs

So I'm imagining a total cost of about $5000 in preparation. That's 2 years in savings maybe more.

I want the most stable system I could get. I don't want any stress on the components.

Thanks
With all the mods listed, definately a zzp turbo kit will give you a significant improvement. Looking at your mods, I would go with the zzp stage 3 kit. Keep on mind that the zzp turbo kit is probably one of the best kit on the market, definately the best bang for the buck.

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Old 02-27-2011, 11:13 PM
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The only thing on your "reliability" list you need for 400whp is the valve springs. Also the 252 would work best for you.
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The most reliable thing you can do is not have a big horsepower car. Even if you build your motor up, its not going to gaurantee that your car will never have an issue. People modify their cars all the time and spend thousands into their car...and have problems constantly. The thing is this, when you buy a car from a manufacturer, its not some guy who just makes out parts and say I think its good. You have educated engineers, designers and testers who go through everything and then say "Ok this is reliable and we feel good giving it a warranty". When you modify your car, you're playing the engineer, the designer and the tester. All those parts are from different companies and those companies specialize in 1 part. Its that simple.

If this is your only vehicle, I would suggest staying away from going huge in power. If it isn't, then continue on your path but building your engine to that extreme may not be necessary. Also you're factory turbocharged, why not replace certain components to improve what you're doing? You don't need a turbo kit to gain some more power and be somewhat reliable.

Good luck with your decision.
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Nice advice thanks, it was well written.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
The most reliable thing you can do is not have a big horsepower car. Even if you build your motor up, its not going to gaurantee that your car will never have an issue. People modify their cars all the time and spend thousands into their car...and have problems constantly. The thing is this, when you buy a car from a manufacturer, its not some guy who just makes out parts and say I think its good. You have educated engineers, designers and testers who go through everything and then say "Ok this is reliable and we feel good giving it a warranty". When you modify your car, you're playing the engineer, the designer and the tester. All those parts are from different companies and those companies specialize in 1 part. Its that simple.

If this is your only vehicle, I would suggest staying away from going huge in power. If it isn't, then continue on your path but building your engine to that extreme may not be necessary. Also you're factory turbocharged, why not replace certain components to improve what you're doing? You don't need a turbo kit to gain some more power and be somewhat reliable.

Good luck with your decision.
Please ignore my post, im being a troll.
However sir/ma'am, you are being a Debbie Downer...
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For 400WHP, you don't need to crack open the motor. Stock engine is ok. just make sure you do valve springs and have a good exhaust.

I'd keep the transmission stock and if it breaks upgrade to our upcoming performance unit.
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Originally Posted by Bleu
Please ignore my post, im being a troll.
However sir/ma'am, you are being a Debbie Downer...
debbie downer? You mean realistic?
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Originally Posted by northvibe
debbie downer? You mean realistic?
Shhhhhh!
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Originally Posted by Bleu
Please ignore my post, im being a troll.
However sir/ma'am, you are being a Debbie Downer...
LOL

I'm just being realistic. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
For 400WHP, you don't need to crack open the motor. Stock engine is ok. just make sure you do valve springs and have a good exhaust.

I'd keep the transmission stock and if it breaks upgrade to our upcoming performance unit.
Are you releasing a new transmission?
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
For 400WHP, you don't need to crack open the motor. Stock engine is ok. just make sure you do valve springs and have a good exhaust.

I'd keep the transmission stock and if it breaks upgrade to our upcoming performance unit.
this is news to me
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Originally Posted by Garret
this is news to me
Same here!! What kind of transmission? I remember a thread by Matt M figuring out a way to build a 6 speed trans at a decent price. Is it the one you are releasing?
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Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance

When you support ZZP by buying our products when you have a choice, you support future innovations in your market such as our transmissions. Releases are funded by your support.
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Nice thing!! Definately will keep it on mind
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oh wow, just noticed the transmission link. May 2011 that's right around the corner. Nice
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Nice!
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