Treadstone or ZZP intercooler......... fitment & quality ... GO!
In terms of balance they can be. That much weight over the front wheels is never good for handling. :/
And on another note. Yes I agree with Ryan 100% I love my treadstone parts I have the same thing Ryan has and love it. Install wasn't bad took about 10 hours to install everything and I txt him during it with a couple issues and he helped me out. He has a great how to on installing the treadstone parts. And the treadstone parts are pretty much flawless. They are cheaper only because they use the intercoolers and other things on numerous cars not just cobalts. Im not bashing zzp at all but I recommend treadstone. I'm actually waiting on them to get another shipment of efr turbos in. And customer service is great. I had a issue with the intake called Jason and had them make longer couplers to fix the problem.
I dont think a couple pounds will hurt. Just my .02 but I wouldn't know for sure. I know in our dirt track cars until you got to about 20 lbs difference in weight the car was ok.
And on another note. Yes I agree with Ryan 100% I love my treadstone parts I have the same thing Ryan has and love it. Install wasn't bad took about 10 hours to install everything and I txt him during it with a couple issues and he helped me out. He has a great how to on installing the treadstone parts. And the treadstone parts are pretty much flawless. They are cheaper only because they use the intercoolers and other things on numerous cars not just cobalts. Im not bashing zzp at all but I recommend treadstone. I'm actually waiting on them to get another shipment of efr turbos in. And customer service is great. I had a issue with the intake called Jason and had them make longer couplers to fix the problem.
And on another note. Yes I agree with Ryan 100% I love my treadstone parts I have the same thing Ryan has and love it. Install wasn't bad took about 10 hours to install everything and I txt him during it with a couple issues and he helped me out. He has a great how to on installing the treadstone parts. And the treadstone parts are pretty much flawless. They are cheaper only because they use the intercoolers and other things on numerous cars not just cobalts. Im not bashing zzp at all but I recommend treadstone. I'm actually waiting on them to get another shipment of efr turbos in. And customer service is great. I had a issue with the intake called Jason and had them make longer couplers to fix the problem.
definately a good thread here.. keep it coming.. sounds like minus the actual correct size of the IC's... how much CFM is too much CFM kinda thing.. which I noticed that ZZP doesnt really list on their site.. so based on the dimensions I'm going to say its somewhere near the TR8 and TR10? people seem to be happy with both... I'm really looking for one that has a bit more of a stock look which it seems to me the ZZP has that...
I woulda got the ZZP but I just couldn't get past the fact it hangs below the bumper and I scrape already at stock height, can't imagine how bad it would be lowered. It is larger than the TR10 in cubic inches but I like the TR10 mounting height.
If their higher clearance one was available now it woulda been no contest, ZZP for sure.
If their higher clearance one was available now it woulda been no contest, ZZP for sure.
What are you scraping at stock height? lol I rarely scrape and I'm lowered on Sportlines. The streets are horrible here too, we're slowly sinking every year so roads and driveways come apart and are all mismatched and whatnot. I just use angles and take it easy on messed up sections.
Mostly driveways and sometimes parking curbs. It doesn't happen a lot but it only takes once...
Oh yeah, AutoXing too. Sometimes cones hit pretty hard although I don't think it would break an intercooler. Either way, piece of mind knowing the TR10 will be high and tight.
Oh yeah, AutoXing too. Sometimes cones hit pretty hard although I don't think it would break an intercooler. Either way, piece of mind knowing the TR10 will be high and tight.
I dont think a couple pounds will hurt. Just my .02 but I wouldn't know for sure. I know in our dirt track cars until you got to about 20 lbs difference in weight the car was ok.
And on another note. Yes I agree with Ryan 100% I love my treadstone parts I have the same thing Ryan has and love it. Install wasn't bad took about 10 hours to install everything and I txt him during it with a couple issues and he helped me out. He has a great how to on installing the treadstone parts. And the treadstone parts are pretty much flawless. They are cheaper only because they use the intercoolers and other things on numerous cars not just cobalts. Im not bashing zzp at all but I recommend treadstone. I'm actually waiting on them to get another shipment of efr turbos in. And customer service is great. I had a issue with the intake called Jason and had them make longer couplers to fix the problem.
And on another note. Yes I agree with Ryan 100% I love my treadstone parts I have the same thing Ryan has and love it. Install wasn't bad took about 10 hours to install everything and I txt him during it with a couple issues and he helped me out. He has a great how to on installing the treadstone parts. And the treadstone parts are pretty much flawless. They are cheaper only because they use the intercoolers and other things on numerous cars not just cobalts. Im not bashing zzp at all but I recommend treadstone. I'm actually waiting on them to get another shipment of efr turbos in. And customer service is great. I had a issue with the intake called Jason and had them make longer couplers to fix the problem.
thanks for the great feedback!
~jason
When I supercharged my 2.2 ecotec sunfire I never noticed any difference in added weight up front. And the Supercharger would add quite a bit of weight along with the intake mani that was previously plastic.
I woulda got the ZZP but I just couldn't get past the fact it hangs below the bumper and I scrape already at stock height, can't imagine how bad it would be lowered. It is larger than the TR10 in cubic inches but I like the TR10 mounting height.
If their higher clearance one was available now it woulda been no contest, ZZP for sure.
If their higher clearance one was available now it woulda been no contest, ZZP for sure.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
We've sold nearly 200 IC's and not a single person has had an issue. We're confident enough to give a guarantee on them. You hit something because it was too low and if it's breaks, we'll replace it no charge.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
We've sold nearly 200 IC's and not a single person has had an issue. We're confident enough to give a guarantee on them. You hit something because it was too low and if it's breaks, we'll replace it no charge.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
We've sold nearly 200 IC's and not a single person has had an issue. We're confident enough to give a guarantee on them. You hit something because it was too low and if it's breaks, we'll replace it no charge.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
no offense to anyone when I say this.. but it feels like there are some mixed messages here.. what I'd like to know and especially see.. are some pics of the older ZZP's that are apparently a bit bigger than the newer redesign? .. and maybe a pic or two of the newer ZZP as well... and some pics of the Treadstone.. any of that would be most appreciated!!...
does anyone know what the volume comparrison of the ZZP is as well as the treadstone over the stock? I know hahn says its core volume is 150%... and there is a 20% increase in volume according to their site.. I assume that to be just the size of the intercooler overall LxWxH kinda math.. not sure though.... just trying to do some estimates...
ok.. its almost 5am... my brain hurts...
does anyone know what the volume comparrison of the ZZP is as well as the treadstone over the stock? I know hahn says its core volume is 150%... and there is a 20% increase in volume according to their site.. I assume that to be just the size of the intercooler overall LxWxH kinda math.. not sure though.... just trying to do some estimates...
ok.. its almost 5am... my brain hurts...
We've sold nearly 200 IC's and not a single person has had an issue. We're confident enough to give a guarantee on them. You hit something because it was too low and if it's breaks, we'll replace it no charge.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
It's one of those things where a market starts saying something and then everyone thinks it's reality. Truth is, the ZZP IC doesn't have clearance issues.
It doesnt matter to me about the car being low i drove my integra i had and it was dropped almost on the ground like 1 to 1 1/2 inches off the ground. never hit my intercooler and very very seldom hit the bumper and I live in louisiana with the crappiest roads in the us. My cobalt is stock height and i never have scraped the bumper but my wife has the intercooler hasnt been touched. i have the treadstone. and also in ryans stage 3 treadstone intsall is the pic of the treadstone intercooler
It doesnt matter to me about the car being low i drove my integra i had and it was dropped almost on the ground like 1 to 1 1/2 inches off the ground. never hit my intercooler and very very seldom hit the bumper and I live in louisiana with the crappiest roads in the us. My cobalt is stock height and i never have scraped the bumper but my wife has the intercooler hasnt been touched. i have the treadstone. and also in ryans stage 3 treadstone intsall is the pic of the treadstone intercooler
definately a good thread here.. keep it coming.. sounds like minus the actual correct size of the IC's... how much CFM is too much CFM kinda thing.. which I noticed that ZZP doesnt really list on their site.. so based on the dimensions I'm going to say its somewhere near the TR8 and TR10? people seem to be happy with both... I'm really looking for one that has a bit more of a stock look which it seems to me the ZZP has that...


