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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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So this Infini boost thingy.......the turbo can boost more than the 22-24 at a lower RPM then as the RPM increases the boost tapers off to keep it in the efficency in the happy place?? Am i Close?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
there is a way to use oem gm parts tog et whatever boost level you want.
who said anything about just boost.. i'm well aware of getting around the throttle closing issues, and capped boost with hptuners.. but I wasn't talking about that .. i was talking about the fact that there are a **** load of useful tables for the eco's that hptuners will never unlock
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
exactly.... the car throws the over boost code at 255kpa people....

I'll post the logs when I get home... Spikes to 253kpa and holds right around 240kpa throughout the duration of the pull!
Our pressure is 253 kPa - 100kPa = 153 Kpa gauge pressure not total pressure. To the OP: We need a speedo shot from 0-160 Km/hr please.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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I contancted borg warner about the turbo and the guy said that at 18 psi at 6600 it is way out of efficiency, so I asked him what he thought of me going to run 24 psi up to 6600 and he told me good luck. So what did I do, called vince and order the selectable tune upgrade and 24 psi. I will take a vid. when I get it.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
sucks for you .. have fun only using like 1/25th of the tables the lnf has lol
Actually this ECM has 2500 tables total 600 for fueling alone. We have 13 tables 14 if you count overboost and underboost. 1badblueberrySc is correct about the powerband though. The useable powerband rapidly decreases as the pressure exceeds 24 psi. The If someone with the infiniboost tune can make stronger numbers than 1badblueberry's or mine I will be impressed then. 1badblueberry: 342 whp 387 wrtq. Me: 345 whp 375 wrtq. We have basically the same tune BTW. Different Dynos different states and I have a 3" CB. This tune is designed with a larger turbo that can breathe well at above 24 psi in mind.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
We need a speedo shot from 0-160 Km/hr please.
Well, when cars get to a certain HP level and you want to test "street" power, I find that the best way to see how fast a car is on the street is to use the 60-130mph test. This is what really shows how much of a street monster a vehicle is and takes almost any possibility of wheel spin out of the equation.

Here are some current stats for some very quick cars...in seconds from 60-130mph

6.90 McLaren F1
6.90 Mosler MT900S
7.00 Ferrari Enzo
7.23 Mercedes SLR McLaren
7.30 Porsche Carrera GT
7.70 Ferrari 599 GTS Fiorano
7.86 Corvette C6 Z06
8.07 Lamborghini LP640
8.70 Nissan GT-R
8.86 Stock 997TT / 32 degrees, Tiptronic
9.10 993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / 2 shifts
9.30 Ferarri F40
9.30 Ferarri F50
9.40 Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.50 Ferrari F430
10.06 996TT with ECU flash
10.90 Lamborghini Murcielago
11.70 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.10 Lamborghini Gallardo
12.90 BMW M3 - Dinan S3-R Supercharged
16.20 BMW M3 - stock


How quick you think we can get this "infiniboost" cobalt to go?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Actually this ECM has 2500 tables total 600 for fueling alone. We have 13 tables 14 if you count overboost and underboost. 1badblueberrySc is correct about the powerband though. The useable powerband rapidly decreases as the pressure exceeds 24 psi. The If someone with the infiniboost tune can make stronger numbers than 1badblueberry's or mine I will be impressed then. 1badblueberry: 342 whp 387 wrtq. Me: 345 whp 375 wrtq. We have basically the same tune BTW. Different Dynos different states and I have a 3" CB. This tune is designed with a larger turbo that can breathe well at above 24 psi in mind.
What he said. You shouldn't run the infiniboost tune unless your pushing a larger turbo or it really doesn't do much for you.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
I contancted borg warner about the turbo and the guy said that at 18 psi at 6600 it is way out of efficiency, so I asked him what he thought of me going to run 24 psi up to 6600 and he told me good luck. So what did I do, called vince and order the selectable tune upgrade and 24 psi. I will take a vid. when I get it.
I logged 20 psi at 7500 rpms the other day in third gear. It will take it at least for a while. 7500 in third is 127 mph BTW.

Originally Posted by agent007kimball
Well, when cars get to a certain HP level and you want to test "street" power, I find that the best way to see how fast a car is on the street is to use the 60-130mph test. This is what really shows how much of a street monster a vehicle is and takes almost any possibility of wheel spin out of the equation.

Here are some current stats for some very quick cars...in seconds from 60-130mph

6.90 McLaren F1
6.90 Mosler MT900S
7.00 Ferrari Enzo
7.23 Mercedes SLR McLaren
7.30 Porsche Carrera GT
7.70 Ferrari 599 GTS Fiorano
7.86 Corvette C6 Z06
8.07 Lamborghini LP640
8.70 Nissan GT-R
8.86 Stock 997TT / 32 degrees, Tiptronic
9.10 993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / 2 shifts
9.30 Ferarri F40
9.30 Ferarri F50
9.40 Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.50 Ferrari F430
10.06 996TT with ECU flash
10.90 Lamborghini Murcielago
11.70 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.10 Lamborghini Gallardo
12.90 BMW M3 - Dinan S3-R Supercharged
16.20 BMW M3 - stock


How quick you think we can get this "infiniboost" cobalt to go?
I did a log of 60-130 a couple days ago. Took right at 12 seconds. 30-130 in 15.5 seconds.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Actually this ECM has 2500 tables total 600 for fueling alone. We have 13 tables 14 if you count overboost and underboost. 1badblueberrySc is correct about the powerband though. The useable powerband rapidly decreases as the pressure exceeds 24 psi. The If someone with the infiniboost tune can make stronger numbers than 1badblueberry's or mine I will be impressed then. 1badblueberry: 342 whp 387 wrtq. Me: 345 whp 375 wrtq. We have basically the same tune BTW. Different Dynos different states and I have a 3" CB. This tune is designed with a larger turbo that can breathe well at above 24 psi in mind.
very true on all accounts but exactly so you guys currently have actually closer to 1/300th of all the tables has vince unlocked all of them? no... but he's unlocked more then hptuner has and more then they plan to do at this current time.. not to mention.. if/ when trifecta comes out with their editing suite setup... you'll be able to tune cars no other program can

Originally Posted by Terminator2
I logged 20 psi at 7500 rpms the other day in third gear. It will take it at least for a while. 7500 in third is 127 mph BTW.



I did a log of 60-130 a couple days ago. Took right at 12 seconds. 30-130 in 15.5 seconds.
i hate you ... lol i hit like 98 at 7200 in 3rd lol forced shifting into 4th for the 1/4 FTL

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I logged 20 psi at 7500 rpms the other day in third gear. It will take it at least for a while. 7500 in third is 127 mph BTW.



I did a log of 60-130 a couple days ago. Took right at 12 seconds. 30-130 in 15.5 seconds.
7500 rpms is a **** ton. besides the turbo how long can the motor take going that high, or is it ok?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
very true on all accounts but exactly so you guys currently have actually closer to 1/300th of all the tables has vince unlocked all of them? no... but he's unlocked more then hptuner has and more then they plan to do at this current time.. not to mention.. if/ when trifecta comes out with their editing suite setup... you'll be able to tune cars no other program can



i hate you ... lol i hit like 98 at 7200 in 3rd lol forced shifting into 4th for the 1/4 FTL
Hopefully by the end of this year HP Tuners will have this ECM completely unlocked. Then the real fun begins.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
very true on all accounts but exactly so you guys currently have actually closer to 1/300th of all the tables has vince unlocked all of them? no... but he's unlocked more then hptuner has and more then they plan to do at this current time.. not to mention.. if/ when trifecta comes out with their editing suite setup... you'll be able to tune cars no other program can



i hate you ... lol i hit like 98 at 7200 in 3rd lol forced shifting into 4th for the 1/4 FTL
i guess im understanding this correctly, terminator and blueberry have pretty much maxed out the factory turbo with their tunes, and the cars ecu with all those tables basically could be tuned to crazy numbers.

term what do you think you will be able to get out of the stock turbo, full boltons, ecu completely unlocked

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
7500 rpms is a **** ton. besides the turbo how long can the motor take going that high, or is it ok?
Baldturbofreak revs his GT30R solstice to 7600 rpms on a daily basis for over 20K miles no issues. I rarely rev past 6500 normally.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
very true on all accounts but exactly so you guys currently have actually closer to 1/300th of all the tables has vince unlocked all of them? no... but he's unlocked more then hptuner has and more then they plan to do at this current time.. not to mention.. if/ when trifecta comes out with their editing suite setup... you'll be able to tune cars no other program can



i hate you ... lol i hit like 98 at 7200 in 3rd lol forced shifting into 4th for the 1/4 FTL

But he hasn't perfected anymore other than 2 tables. This isn't a fight thread... take your Trifecta love to another thread.

I'm talking about useful power... I can guarantee, YOU can look at his gauge... SPIKES and then drops like a rock shortly there after....

Ours spike but drop much less and hold longer into the powerband.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze03
i guess im understanding this correctly, terminator and blueberry have pretty much maxed out the factory turbo with their tunes, and the cars ecu with all those tables basically could be tuned to crazy numbers.

term what do you think you will be able to get out of the stock turbo, full boltons, ecu completely unlocked
Tuned at 28 psi in the mid range 400 wtrq. Commanding 24 psi up top for max flow 36lbs/min could make 360 whp under perfect conditions.

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But he hasn't perfected anymore other than 2 tables. This isn't a fight thread... take your Trifecta love to another thread.

I'm talking about useful power... I can guarantee, YOU can look at his gauge... SPIKES and then drops like a rock shortly there after....

Ours spike but drop much less and hold longer into the powerband.
Easy Matt. The Torque will indeed drop rapidly as the turbo looses efficiency fast at pressures above 24 psi. Hp will peak at 4500 or so at 26 psi so the powerband is going to be from 3K to 5K so yes it will be a narrow powerband.

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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
But he hasn't perfected anymore other than 2 tables. This isn't a fight thread... take your Trifecta love to another thread.

I'm talking about useful power... I can guarantee, YOU can look at his gauge... SPIKES and then drops like a rock shortly there after....

Ours spike but drop much less and hold longer into the powerband.
So hes should take his trifecta love somewhere else yet your the one repping HPtuners harder then the acctual "really good" tuners in here (term/area).

please take the nutswinging somewhere else.

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Our pressure is 253 kPa - 100kPa = 153 Kpa gauge pressure not total pressure. To the OP: We need a speedo shot from 0-160 Km/hr please.
I can get that for you, however here in manitoba we have a speed limit of 100 KM and our roads are suxzors

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Tuned at 28 psi in the mid range 400 wtrq. Commanding 24 psi up top for max flow 36lbs/min could make 360 whp under perfect conditions.



Easy Matt. The Torque will indeed drop rapidly as the turbo looses efficiency fast at pressures above 24 psi. Hp will peak at 4500 or so at 26 psi so the powerband is going to be from 3K to 5K so yes it will be a narrow powerband.
hmms...interesting..theres something i didnt know.

Term..we need to have a chat on some kind of IM program, i got some stuff that needs talking about

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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So hes should take his trifecta love somewhere else yet your the one repping HPtuners harder then the acctual "really good" tuners in here (term/area).

please take the nutswinging somewhere else.



I can get that for you, however here in manitoba we have a speed limit of 100 KM and our roads are suxzors
You cannot post anything with out those types here. I blame it on age
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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You cannot post anything with out those types here. I blame it on age
meh..i guess so.

im only 19, but i dont go into a hptuner thread and start swinging my trifecta nuts in everyones face.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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So hes should take his trifecta love somewhere else yet your the one repping HPtuners harder then the acctual "really good" tuners in here (term/area).

please take the nutswinging somewhere else.



I can get that for you, however here in manitoba we have a speed limit of 100 KM and our roads are suxzors



hmms...interesting..theres something i didnt know.

Term..we need to have a chat on some kind of IM program, i got some stuff that needs talking about
Okay I'll do that.... since I'm not a "GOOD TUNER" lolz

Anyways...
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Our pressure is 253 kPa - 100kPa = 153 Kpa gauge pressure not total pressure. To the OP: We need a speedo shot from 0-160 Km/hr please.
Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
If 180kpa is 27psi then what is my cars 253Kpa.... might want to rethink that statement junior!
rethink your statement perhaps junior hahah
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rethink your statement perhaps junior hahah
I knew exactly what I posted... but you guys aren't worth it.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Hopefully by the end of this year HP Tuners will have this ECM completely unlocked. Then the real fun begins.
lol good luck with that... how many new tables have the lnf's gotten since they came out ?

hptuners is working on getting ford their ford support now ... and you really think they'll unlock all 2500 tables? haha they don't even have all the tables for the 2.4 or 2.0s that other tuning programs have ..

1badblueberry it's not that it's about trifecta love.. i never said your car didn't make more power.. i said hptuner support for the lnfs blows..
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I knew exactly what I posted... but you guys aren't worth it.
your so much superiour then us..thanks for gracing us with your present o' might one.


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just an fyi on this. the turbo will hit a surge limit at 27 psi. this is so not good on the turbo and will kill it faster than anything. hell pulling the wastegate line on the stock turbo will do this. it will not hit more than 28psi.

this i know for a fact sadly enough. makes for great torquey fun, but tanks fast on topend

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lol good luck with that... how many new tables have the lnf's gotten since they came out ?

hptuners is working on getting ford their ford support now ... and you really think they'll unlock all 2500 tables? haha they don't even have all the tables for the 2.4 or 2.0s that other tuning programs have ..

1badblueberry it's not that it's about trifecta love.. i never said your car didn't make more power.. i said hptuner support for the lnfs blows..
there is enough tables in hpt if used right will yield stupid results in the right hands.

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