but he's the fastest TC. LOL, I love this site.

 

thats nice .. as shown by ss/sc's on this site it doesnt take all the power he has to run that time lol hell i could probably pull close to that if i had a stiffer rear end and a driver mod

 

13.6 at 114...Someone needs to works on the launch.

 

Haha Im on my high horse and staying here and the scs have better traction mods avalible we need tq dampeners

 

dont ever buy a fidanza flywheel, i had 2 shatter and take the tranny with it.

 

what...the...fu*k.

People with this custom tune or GTFO attitude **** me off. ok, go get a custom tune and throw away your warrenty, thats fine. idc. i envy that cause i cannot afford to throw money away like that. but dont act like your extra 20 horse is REAL POWER now. If you want REAL POWER dont buy a cobalt. Cobalt is a auto-x car not a drag car. jeezus christ.

 

^^^^qft.

 

GM is not going to warranty your stage tune car either if you smoke your clutch or blow your tranny. So either way you are pretty much screwed if something like this happens that is why I said months a ago that I was not going to bother waiting on GM for this kit. Stage tune HHR are making only 257-260 whp so it is like a 17-20 whp gain not worth $600 plus installation IMHO.

 

Well that also entirely depends on your service department and how willing they are to work with their customers. I would argue that if a tranny is blown on a GM Staged TC (which was installed by the dealer, etc.) just as an example that you would still have a better chance of getting the work performed under warranty because all they came blame in that case are their own parts.

With a third-party tune, parts, etc. it's far too easy for them to claim "this isn't our part, this is the cause of the problem" and there's little you can do to argue it. They're correct on every portion except for perhaps it being root cause, but again how can you argue with them if a low percentage of car's have that part/tune/etc installed.

Not arguing, just trying to provide perhaps a different point of view on it. When it comes to a third-party tune running the engine well outside its original parameters, they can blame the world on that since it affects nearly every component of the drivetrain...when it's something GM did then perhaps they should have tested a little more diligently if something does go catastrophically wrong.

 

Go with Exedy stage 3 and flywheel.

 

I think you must have been really hard on the car for it to be slipping already. Did you learn on the car? Looks like trifecta had nothing to do with clutch looks like its the driver to me.

 

i have a custom tune and demolished my tranny and got it warrentied people like you **** me off hahhahaha get at me

 

How much whp can the stock clutch hold?

 

You got kinda lucky there. Anytime there is a suspicious hard part failure like engine or transmission. They are instructed to check the ECM for non stock calibrations. If they find a non stock calibration they can and will void your entire powertrain warrantly. Same applies as if you abuse your car tuned or not.

It is torque not hp that causes the clutch to slip. It can hold at least 330 wrtq or more without slipping as long as you dont abuse your clutch you should be fine.

 

You might want to put the right MPH trap speed in there too... 104 mph not 114mph... You must have alot more mods then listed and well over 325 whp to run that kind of trap speed!!!!! If your clutch is slipping, your tires will not spin any more... your tach will spin rapidly but you'll not get any speedo increase with a bad clutch- and no tire spin... If your speedo rises with the tach and there's tire spin, your fine... just too much tq for the tires to handle... You'll be laying out about 1500-2000 for a clutch, not including labor.. and do a different flywheel or machine your stock one...... Ya a light flywheel will free up about 10-14 whp but it's not really worth it...

The stock Continentals get really easy to spin in second gear under boost when they hit the 10-15k mark......

Spec and exedy clutches are mostly good for japanese cars and such... High powered American cars and even racing model Cobalts use Clutchmasters.. Because that's all they do.. Spec\exedy knows Jap cars, CM knows American cars.... I have too much experience having driven and raced over 17 different cars Japanese, German and American... in twenty years... FYI: (Electcblu has no clue what he says most of the time.)..... Clutch masters is on way to many high pwred American cars...

Your dreaming to much... The SS\TC coupe is 3000lbs and with our gearing it'll take 340 whp to run 115+ mph and with that speed it should run low 12's with slicks on ....

The clutch is a wear and tear item like belts and hoses, brakes... these things are not covered under warranty on American cars..... now, if your clutch is going bad under say 12-14 k mi when it should really last about 28-40 k mi, yes they might replace it under warranty....

Just a warning to you all: Sitting at a red light with the clutch pedal to the floor (engaged) and the car in gear will shorten clutch life by 50%..... Always take the car out of gear and foot off the clutch pedal at a red light.....

NOTE: If it's found that a driver does not know how to use the clutch properly like I just described, they ( GM) will not cover it...... They can't afford to cover things like this anymore for the time being .......

 

 

dude a new clutch is like 500-700... not including labor... idk where ur getting ur clutches from but i wouldn't go there anymore

 

have you ever heard the saying it's not what you know it's who you know

 

i love how you TRY to call me out but OMG there SO many wrong things you said

but i'm going to point only one out


60- 2.0061
1/8- 7.9329 @ 94.33
1/4- 12.1190 @ 117.47

on street tires... yea you'll be low 12s at 115 plus but it wont take slicks.. not to mention all you would need to trap 114 would be some tire spin.. 1. Revhigh18, 12.806@113.83, LNF OH NOES lol

and if you think clutches cost that much hell even the exedy hyper single which is probably the most expensive clutch for the ss/sc only costs 1k .... you'd pay 1500-2000 after install labor ... LAWLZ you're obviously full of **** about how many cars you've been around .. again.. and GFTO ..


i really have NO idea how you havent been banned yet

not to mention.. you're probably the first person on here thats said i dont know wtf i'm talking about ..

 

I personally would stay away from spec and try to find a clutchmaster or a centerforce or a exedy

 

doesnt it get old to put all of your mods in your sig?

 

only problem for me is i already have and intake and would have to sell the gm one when i buy the kit.

 

i don't know if they are a sponsor, but spec ftl.

 

They say the clutch is covered but what they mean is that it is covered from mechanical defect. So when you take it to them they'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take it apart only to see the klutch glazed over and abused no matter what the situation is. Then they say yep your not covered because its obviously been dropped and abused. Then you have you car sitting on there rack with the clutch out and having to pay them a G for a new one unless you want to take it off there rack and get it towed somewhere else. They love it when people come in with fried clutches..... They act and say yep its covered and then tell you its not so that they get the business from you. Its easy money for them you see?

And yes I know that from experience its what they did to me.

Oh yes and its wonderful paying an extra G for a rental car because the clutch is backordered for three weeks.........

 

They did the same to me. But because they quote it for 2 days and it took 5, they agree to pay half of the rental. I got my company to pay the other half since Enterprise gave me a truck and I used it for work...