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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Who has wot box on a TC?

Just as title says. If you have, I have a couple ?'s The first one is did you cut ignition and fuel, or just ignition? We had it hooked up to just cut ignition like N2MB states, had the loudest bang I have ever heard followed by an atom bomb coming out of the tailpipe that went all the way to the ceiling. There were 4 of us in the shop and seriously could here for 5 minutes. I mean my uncles .50 cal. isnt this loud.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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lmao. it should just be to ignition. i am wondering if it will interfere at all with the stock NLS?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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... why?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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to build real boost
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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We have it stock.......
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeJJones
... why?
So that I have adjustability on the two step at the track.

Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
lmao. it should just be to ignition. i am wondering if it will interfere at all with the stock NLS?
We had TC completly off.

Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
to build real boost
This. On the stock two step, it drops to 30 vacuum, and the wot box builds a solid 5 pounds of boost.

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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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yeah but NLS is active on all modes
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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i installed this box on my ss/sc. dont remember what i did. alot of cutting and soldering though
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
yeah but NLS is active on all modes
People say this but I still dont believe it is. Is there a way to test it to see?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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doesnt the cobalt come with no lift shift ? isnt that like a wot box ?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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I have performed NLS in every mode on the car! regular, traction control off, Traction control and stability control off, and comp mode!
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by importkiller
I have performed NLS in every mode on the car! regular, traction control off, Traction control and stability control off, and comp mode!
I have to, but how do we know for sure it is working properly. Also when tuned how do we know it is still working how it is suppose to?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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because my boost doesnt drop...
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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NLS is a feature that can be used when ever the ca ris running regardless of traction settings... Launch Control is only on when you turn on Comp mode or ESC OFF. I am also curious to see how the computer reacts to having the wot box and launch conrol though
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferretts
NLS is a feature that can be used when ever the ca ris running regardless of traction settings... Launch Control is only on when you turn on Comp mode or ESC OFF. I am also curious to see how the computer reacts to having the wot box and launch conrol though
Correct except one thing. No LC in ESC OFF. Try it out. You won't see any message on the DIC. This is also why you can't dyno in comp mode as it will peg out at the LC RPM since the back wheels aren't spinning (making it think it's still sitting at the light).

NLS: Any traction mode
LC: Comp Mode

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NLS



LC



No need to show it on here, but here's a link for Comp Mode just in case you're interested

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil.../100_2007b.jpg
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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If you are dropping to 30mmhg vac you have an issue. Mine usually settles around 10mmhg vac how I do it through HPT.

But, to answer the original question, I think it is supposed to cut ignition only.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:14 AM
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^- Just for further reinforcement, above is a video I put together shoowing the stock boost repsonse characteristics, no-lift shift in each mode, and demo of launch control with different clutch engagements. (~29 MB .mp4 video, use QuickTime or VLC and please download to save bandwidth vice streaming).


I personally see no need for adding one to the SS Turbo. Watch what the boost response characteristics of the stock turbo during a Launch Control launch and it immediately builds boost once there is a load placed on the engine. The people who could actually benefit from fractionally more boost in the already heavily torque-multiplied first gear should probably already have downgraded the front brakes in order to run slicks.

The adjustability might be nice to tailor launch control for the track and tires being used, but I'd rather do that by altering the factory calibration if HP Tuners can add or has already added this support. If you decided to run the WOT Box or similar device I'd also prefer to disable the stock no-lift shifting in the calibration as well. In the end without running slicks the best launches I've found on sticky street tires on a good track have still been by launching at much lower rpms (although launch control is pretty fun on rare occasions ).
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbird
Right-click, save as.

^- Just for further reinforcement, above is a video I put together shoowing the stock boost repsonse characteristics, no-lift shift in each mode, and demo of launch control with different clutch engagements. (~29 MB .mp4 video, use QuickTime or VLC and please download to save bandwidth vice streaming).


I personally see no need for adding one to the SS Turbo. Watch what the boost response characteristics of the stock turbo during a Launch Control launch and it immediately builds boost once there is a load placed on the engine. The people who could actually benefit from fractionally more boost in the already heavily torque-multiplied first gear should probably already have downgraded the front brakes in order to run slicks.

The adjustability might be nice to tailor launch control for the track and tires being used, but I'd rather do that by altering the factory calibration if HP Tuners can add or has already added this support. If you decided to run the WOT Box or similar device I'd also prefer to disable the stock no-lift shifting in the calibration as well. In the end without running slicks the best launches I've found on sticky street tires on a good track have still been by launching at much lower rpms (although launch control is pretty fun on rare occasions ).
Do you know how to disable the nls feature. Do you do this by hptuners.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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some people do too much just cus their bored.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I might sound dumb, but what does the WOT box do? Are they worth it. How bout in a ss/sc
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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its interfering with the factory nls i would diable the wot shift from the wot box and only use the 2 step thats ur best bet
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ericgt79
some people do too much just cus their bored.
Just like your turbo timer thats not needed. watch it before you post.

Originally Posted by boostaddict36
its interfering with the factory nls i would diable the wot shift from the wot box and only use the 2 step thats ur best bet
Thats probably what we will do.

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Try it one more time like it is and take a video of the fireball...

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jb09ss
Try it one more time like it is and take a video of the fireball...

It cant be good. we are going to try it again but not till were on the road. If it does it again getting rid of the wot shift and leave the 2 step.
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