Who is running E-85 ethanol? Do you like it, what kind of numbers are you putting down? had any problems? i am getting tuned for it next week by vince...thanks.

 

No im not

 

My HPFP couldnt keep up on full E-85, but it ran E-47 fine.

 

its good. my engine temps have gone down by almost 10 degrees. use to get like 27 miles to the gallon now i get about 19-20 street and freeway combined. Haven't got it dynoed yet but i can feel the difference. only down side is when i first start the car up in the morning it stutters a little.

 

There's ways to make full E85 work on bolted cars but it makes them less powerful down low compared to a blend. I also so no difference in top end power going from a blend to full. I would stick with a blend unless you plan on getting the ZZP cams with the injection lobe modification.

 

This.

E47-E60 seems to be the sweet spot.

On full E85 with just a downpipe and a tune I put down 314whp/388ft lbs on a dynojet here in Green Bay. Since then I've retuned for E60 and the car is much much faster than on 85.

 

Our car made huge improvements across the entire powerband, but then again I have a blower I also run a pretty darn aggressive map to take advantage of full e85.

 

Toldyaso!

 

How do you get E-60, or how do you make it?

 

Running E35 on the BNR 2871 turbo with Trifecta tune.

If you read the world wide webz thier is very good proof that anything over E50 blend doesn't make anymore power.

 

2g E85+1g 93=E60
This is what I hear. I run E60 cause its easy for me remember (2:1)

 

Get some kind of a intake mod done and add a little more timing/boost and you could see numbers closer 350/400

 

Im full bolt ons and full e85 thru Trifecta, Vince has me on a not so aggressive tune. I put down 330hp and 375tq. I've had no problems whatsoever with it.

 

Why wouldnt you go aggressive with full E85? 330/375 is not that great for a fully bolted full E car.

 

It might be a little more helpful to actually post some info for folks to see.

Click on the graph below. It is interesting to note that the blending response of RON and MON as a function of ethanol content is highly nonlinear. There is a substantial octane improvement between RG and E10, and between E10 and E50. However, between E50 and E85 there is very little difference in either RON or MON. So basically the perfomance gains from an E50 blend to an E85 blend is very very minimal and almost not worth the headache for fueling concerns. I highlighted the compared octane numbers in gray in the graph. Notice the R+M/2 rating. E50 is only .2 octane lower than E85.... hmmmm

Keep in mind with this graph that RG=regular gas 87 octane no ethanol, HO=91 high octane no ethnnol, E10=90% 91 octane/10% ethanol blend, E50=50% 91 octane/50% ethanol mix, E85=15% 91 octane/85% ethanol blend.

Also for those that may or may not know, RON stands for Research Octane Number (widely used in Europe, octane ratings tend to be high because the tests simulate fuel performance under low severity engine operation), MON stands for Motor Octane Number (rarely used outside of a chem lab, and octane ratings tend to be much lower than RON because the tests simulate a more severe operation that might be incurred at high speed or high load), and finally R+M/2 which of course is literally RON+MON/2 which is used in the US and Canada as a standard for rating octane in a fuel.

 

Subd

 

It might be, but to be honest I get sick of doing all the searching for people, they have google just like me.

Same for me using E35 in my 16 gallon tank. The ratio is easier to keep up with on my fuel gauge dash marks.

 

No I hear you. Most are most definitely a little on the lazy side, but I'd just rather give consistant and accurate information when possible. Sometimes things get confused and misconstrued when multiple sources are being referanced

 

cuz i cant afford a clutch right now. lol! its the first tune i got from trifecta. Drew said vince could go more agressive, but for now im good untill i get my clutch.

 

So i have E15, E30, E85, 87 and 89 with up to 10% E all at one pump. how would i make E60, or 35, or 47? we dont have 93 octane here.

 

no 91? Either way, seeing as how you have E30 available in your area I would personally just stick with that to be honest. No blending, no containers and no math involved. Just pull up to the pump, fill up and and be on your way.

 

So what all is needed to run e60? Bigger fuel pump or is it all in the tune? And do you always have to run the blend, or can you switch from e60 to 91 with out any issues?

 

Tune will get you to 60% E but 47% is all you need. Once tuned you have to stay with it.

 

1:1 blend for me.

 

whats the point of e85 besides potental for more power? its cheaper yes, but u get quite a bit less gas milage, which in the end makes it just as expensive as normal 93. So why do it?