What exactly do I need for the ZZP co so that I don't have to ruin the stock stuff? 2.5" 90 degree elbow? How many? Tbolts? Thanks

 

Why not save a few pennies and get the OTTP stuff?

They're doing a sale right now.

You'll end up spending more trying to mix and match couplers/t bolts with their system if you don't wanna run the stock rubber couplers.

 

Or the dejon, which comes with everything you need and actually fits...

 

I want the upper pipe only. Sorry, I forgot that detail

 

OTTP piping is cheaper than Dejon.

Comes with upper and lower piping. Couplers and t-bolts. $350 right now.

 

Just get the Injen pipe and new couplers and tbolts.

 

you get injen I got injen with new couplers and tbolts as well. love it.

 

Ok what do I need for injen? Where is the cheapest place for the pipe?

 

PM NGA motorsports if you're looking for a good deal on Injen IC piping. And then go to Silicon Intakes.com and get some couplers and tbolt clamps because I've heard of it blowing off with the tiny couplers and worm clamps they give you.

 

Ya mine blow off as soon as i got the gms1 to much pressure i got mine from couplers warehouse 3in the 2.5 is to small that it comes with if ur going up in boost wouldnt hold and the clamps either i got the tbolts and it works and holds great and i boost 24psi and hold 20 on top

 

Ummm..... Dejon complete kit is $259... With couplers and tbolts it's $318.

$318<$350.

 

Thanks everyone! I finally just ordered the dejon upper piping with tbolts and silicone couplings

 

Did you get the one with the mount?

 

Can you explain what you mean. Its to bad that you guys led the op into all lower quality products. The highest powered LNF's run our parts.

 

^this

 

just want to know if zzp would do like a GB on the charge pipe ever?????

 

Ryan,

I have assisted with 2 installs of your product. 2 lower charge pipes with MAF relocation, and an upper pipe with BOV flange.

On the upper pipe, the customer and I were disapointed in the fact that he had to cut up his stock piping to use the stock rubber elbow out of the turbo, and the T-bolt clamps were such a tight fit that they required us to use pliers to squeeze the clamp together enough to get the nut on the threads. Upper pipe install took 30 minutes.

Same customer also had your lower cp with maf relocation. Same problem with the t-bolt clamps, but more frustrating than that was the fit of the pipe itself. if it was put on the intercooler first, it was impossible to get onto the throttlebody because of alignment. when put on the throttlebody side first, it was almost 2 inches out of line with the intercooler outlet, and required removal of passenger inner fender, lots of manhandling of the pipe, and also intercooler to get it in place. Lower pipe install took about 3 hours.

The second customer with your lower pipe had the same fitment issues. Because of my experience with the first customer, I anticipated issues and we removed most of the passenger inner fender to have more room to force the pipe into place. Even with prior experience with the install and knowing what to expect, install still took 2 and a half hours.

BOTH of these customers had the cars jacked up and had plenty of clearance to work with, and had plenty of tools to work with.

In contrast, I removed my stock charge piping, and airbox and installed complete Dejon upper and lower chargepiping (which didn't require the use of any of my stock parts) and intake in under an hour, without ever having to put the car on a jack or take apart the inner fender. Everything lined up, fit well, and required no forcing, frustration, or cursing.

I would never speak negatively about something I didn't experience first hand. I know I didn't personally purchase the items, but these experiences certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.

In asking around, the overall concensus that I have heard from other people with your products was "the downpipe is awesome and fits great, everything else is a disapointment."

Please don't take this as bashing, because I don't mean it that way. I have no love for Dejon as a company (I actually was very disapointed in thier sales and customer service experience), but the pipes I have have were easy to install, fit well, and have worked flawlessly. IN MY OPINION, I don't see it as an inferior product. I simply hoped to steer the OP away from a similar experience with your product.

 

im pretty sure everything u need comes with the piping except maybe tbolts. it comes with all couplers and stuff u need. every piping kit does.

 

Yeah I'm not fond of the stock couplers..idk why zzp doesnt offer silicone upgrade ones. I'd rather not cut my stock piping apart.

 

They said the stock parts were good on their 400+ hp car, and that they did it this way to keep costs down. I agree, though, that I would not want to cut apart my stock piping.

 

It's nice to keep costs down, but I'd rather pay extra and get a complete product rather then get one that has to be incorporated by butchering the stock parts my car came with making it impossible for me to return the car to stock if I chose to sell it or needed to take it in for repairs.

 

Others are of the same opinion, including myself.

 

Every companies charge pipe does the same thing. Only routed different. Any brand you will be set as long as you get t-bolts and silicon couplers.

 

No, not all charge pipes require you to use the factory 90 degree bends on top and bottom.

 

Does the same thing as in improving flow not what pieces you replace. None make more power than the other.