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memphisr24 Jan 19, 2007 06:02 PM

100 octane unleaded
 
There's a gas station not TOO far from me that my friends are telling me sells 100 Ocante unleaded gas. Could I run that on my car with a cat and a tune? (i have hptuners)

I'm definately trying it if no one says anything bad about it

sethallen Jan 19, 2007 06:11 PM

if you know how to properly tune it I would say yea

memphisr24 Jan 19, 2007 06:12 PM

Because i've heard e85, which is equivialent to 104 octane, can ruin your fuel system, unless obviously, your car is able to run on e85

*TRIX* Jan 19, 2007 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by memphisr24 (Post 765679)
Because i've heard e85, which is equivialent to 104 octane, can ruin your fuel system, unless obviously, your car is able to run on e85


i think i was told that that gas is leaded tho the e85 shit

memphisr24 Jan 19, 2007 06:17 PM

Hmm...well i'm definately trying this then, crossing my fingers that I can get rid of this knock without running 14 degrees of timing...yes 14....2.5 pullied and I get smoked my gm stage 2 guys...if I don't get rid of it, i'm putting her away for good

pierre Jan 19, 2007 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by memphisr24 (Post 765690)
Hmm...well i'm definately trying this then, crossing my fingers that I can get rid of this knock without running 14 degrees of timing...yes 14....2.5 pullied and I get smoked my gm stage 2 guys...if I don't get rid of it, i'm putting her away for good

How is your AIT2 temperature doing?

Pierre

shortyhend2004 Jan 19, 2007 07:46 PM

hahaha I know people who run 115 on their srts leaded, I'd say your fine for an ocasional 100. I mean we can get 110 locally unleaded, 5 bucks a gallon.....

TVS_SS Jan 19, 2007 07:53 PM

unleaded 100 would be perfectly fine.

Only benefit will be if your knock limited and can optimize your timing (no that doesnt mean advance it as far as possible).

Otherwise, 100 octane has slightly less engergy content for the same amount of fuel. Actually 87 has the highest energy content! (But benfits in optimized timing far outweigh any minor energy content decrease)

sethallen Jan 19, 2007 08:01 PM

e85 is bad for a fuel system because ethanol is corrosive. therefore you need a car made for e85.

runnin 100 octane fuel will not have a bad effect on your fuel system

LaserblueSS Jan 19, 2007 08:16 PM

man, i cant find anyone who sells over 93. i just wanted some for fun.

Cobalt_Supercharged Jan 19, 2007 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by sethallen (Post 765907)
e85 is bad for a fuel system because ethanol is corrosive. therefore you need a car made for e85.

runnin 100 octane fuel will not have a bad effect on your fuel system

Exactly. Blown 4-banger was running only 100 unleaded for a while. It allows you to run a lot more timing. He has it at 25* with his 2.6" when running on 100 octane, zero KR.

Memphis you should really talk to Blown 4-banger about what you need to do to get your car tuned in right. Higher octane is just a temporary fix for improper tuning.

boostbalt Jan 19, 2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by shortyhend2004 (Post 765873)
hahaha I know people who run 115 on their srts leaded, I'd say your fine for an ocasional 100. I mean we can get 110 locally unleaded, 5 bucks a gallon.....

Oh that's just a touch more then I was paying for 91 octane (I'm in Canada, it was 126 a liter). You guys shouldn't bitch about fuel prices. Come up north and see how much a gallon would cost ya.

Ryan

Blown 4-banger Jan 19, 2007 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged (Post 765928)
Exactly. Blown 4-banger was running only 100 unleaded for a while. It allows you to run a lot more timing. He has it at 28* with his 2.6" when running on 100 octane, zero KR.

Memphis you should really talk to Blown 4-banger about what you need to do to get your car tuned in right. Higher octane is just a temporary fix for improper tuning.

X2! Oh, and I'm sure Cobalt_Supercharged did a typo, but I'm running 23-25.5 degrees depending what tune. My pump gas tune only run 15 degrees, so memphisr24 I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!!!! I can run up to 26.5 degrees of timing without knock on 101 octane, its amaizing how much the stuff helps!

patathSS Jan 19, 2007 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger (Post 766119)
X2! Oh, and I'm sure Cobalt_Supercharged did a typo, but I'm running 23-25.5 degrees depending what tune. My pump gas tune only run 15 degrees, so memphisr24 I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!!!! I can run up to 26.5 degrees of timing without knock on 101 octane, its amaizing how much the stuff helps!


You need some W/I. 91 octane, 2.6" pulley, 23 degrees of timing :cssNET:

Blown 4-banger Jan 19, 2007 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by patathSS (Post 766131)
You need some W/I. 91 octane, 2.6" pulley, 23 degrees of timing :cssNET:

No thanks! I don't like the idea of injecting anything other than fuel into my motor.

Cobalt_Supercharged Jan 19, 2007 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger (Post 766119)
X2! Oh, and I'm sure Cobalt_Supercharged did a typo, but I'm running 23-25.5 degrees depending what tune. My pump gas tune only run 15 degrees, so memphisr24 I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!!!! I can run up to 26.5 degrees of timing without knock on 101 octane, its amaizing how much the stuff helps!

Oops. I could have sworn I heard you say you ran 28 at sometime or another.

Blown 4-banger Jan 19, 2007 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged (Post 766149)
Oops. I could have sworn I heard you say you ran 28 at sometime or another.

No way. 28 would be pointless, thats too much timing. I'v found the at least with my car it seems to make the most power at 25.5 degrees.

patathSS Jan 19, 2007 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger (Post 766148)
No thanks! I don't like the idea of injecting anything other than fuel into my motor.

Hey its a ton better than knock!

Blown 4-banger Jan 19, 2007 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by patathSS (Post 766166)
Hey its a ton better than knock!

What about when the water injection system fails and you blow your motor?

patathSS Jan 19, 2007 10:58 PM

Its just as easy to say what will you do when one of your injectors fail and the engine blows? Its all a matter of monitoring. Wideband, Interceptor, And a W/I indication light. The car is still tuned safe.

Would I prefer to run 100 unleaded? You bet. But for my occasional spirited driving W/I is amazing.

Blown 4-banger Jan 20, 2007 10:41 AM

It doesn't bother me having to flash the 101 tune on it. Its one of the reasons I really want that stage 3 PCM provided its not locked.

aj_92rs Jan 20, 2007 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by sethallen (Post 765907)
e85 is bad for a fuel system because ethanol is corrosive. therefore you need a car made for e85.

runnin 100 octane fuel will not have a bad effect on your fuel system

Ethanol isn't corrosive. The water is causing the problem. Ethanol retains water, unlike gasoline. That's what causes the corrosion

mattyfinch Jan 20, 2007 12:02 PM

i run 23-25 degrees of timing on methanol/water injection.

the snow people claim your cars octane level is well over 100 during the spray.

p.s. blown, how did you shred your belt like that?

sethallen Jan 20, 2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by aj_92rs (Post 767089)
Ethanol isn't corrosive. The water is causing the problem. Ethanol retains water, unlike gasoline. That's what causes the corrosion

yea..the ethanol retains the water thus making e85 have corrosive properties

either way

Blown 4-banger Jan 20, 2007 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by mattyfinch (Post 767118)
i run 23-25 degrees of timing on methanol/water injection.

the snow people claim your cars octane level is well over 100 during the spray.

p.s. blown, how did you shred your belt like that?

Worked on the car from 6pm to 5am, and put the belt on wrong :red:


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