hey guys i just picked up a 06 ss/sc with g85 and im lookin to put about 4000 in mods into it. i really want to be in the 12's any suggestions.
so far im thinking stage 2, exedy clutch and lightwieght fly wheel if cobalt has one.
corsa exhaust and a intake. short throw, maybe new front mount
what else can i do though......any draw backs of a stage 3 or what would u guys do. im into the car for cheap so i have alot of room to play with it.

 

4000 grand is just enough this is what you need to do get 60 lb injectors 200$ a 2.6 modular pulley system 120$ then get a tune you can probably get one for about 300$ new belt tensioner pulley 130$ spark plugs 35$ zzp header downpipe without cat 450$ with hi flow cat 550$ custom 3 in exhaust 300$, Clutch fx 400 -550$ new Axels -800$ and some decent tires i got some for 150$ ALMOST forgot cobra H/E-125$ wideband and an aeroforce scan guage 450$ and if you really really want meth injection 400$ airbox mod 65$ that should get you into the high high twelves like 12.95 depending on driving skills of course o yeah and some traction mods about 250$ worth brings it to a total of about 4200$ but remember you dont have to upgrade axels or clutch till the stock one give out and if you can drive without getting wheelhop then you dont need traction mods some people say the ingalls will do the trick and thats only 140

 

Well, stage 3 will let you use spray, but alot of folks are hanging out waiting to see if TAG can give us a twin screw blower swap - that would get you at least 350HP it appears.

Most will tell you to get better axles and an engine brace (Ingalls Stiffy Dampener) to eliminate "wheel hop" and save your axles.

 

What he said which is suppose to be under 2500, than the rest for a new clutch 600ish and flywheel 300ish and exhaust 1000ish. Traction Mods.

 

the twin screw swap is 2500 just for the blower thats not gonna be in his 4000 dollar price range , if you get a twin screw your gonna need full 3 in exhaust and 60lbers a tune axels 800 a clutch 500 head studs 150 head gasket 90 plus wideband scan guage all that stuff lets just say for you to run a nice 350 WHP setup your looking at about 5-6 grand with NEW parts i dont know about used stuff but i can tell you its gonna be hard to find used axels and stuff like that , the twinscrew swap is more for the person trying to run 11's the m62 HAS PROVEN ITSELF TO HIT 12's

 

i heard som ish about the stage 2s and to wait a bit...is there going to some bette ones soon or should i jsut get it now..i guess stage 3 is out cus i dont want meth inj.

 

i mean i guess you can just get the blower , tune , 60lb injectors , but dont get pissed if you blow a head gasket 150 or break an axel 800 or blow up your clutch 550 see what im getting at yea sure you can make 300 whp with just that whipple 2500 exhaust mods 800 and traction mods 300 and i would NEVER run that without a wideband or an aeroforce 450 and then its not a question of what your gonna run but how many times your gonna run it my guess is 2 the first time will be fine the second time your gonna break something i mean look at black06ss or whatever his name is he had like 290 whp and couldnt go to the track without breaking an axel so take it how you want just dont come back and say i didnt say so , good luck

there is NO WAY your gonna hit 12's without meth injection on a m62 , unless your the worlds best drive OR cheat of course (nitrous).

 

so im new to the supercharge game i just left a n/a celica gts stuck in the 14's for this car so maybe stupid question but what is ment by wideband or aeroforce 450

 

widband 02 guage to show you what your air to fuel ratio is at ALL times this is the one of the important things on the car (air fuel ratio). Second the aeroforce scan guage is a guage that measures tons of **** but most importantly it measures knock retard which is detonation in short terms its not good and its good to monitor it and im going to get the 1200 ax blower swap and i know that i will be running it without both of those guages. 450 is the estimated price for both of them 250 for wideband 200 for aeroforce scan guage if you get a good price

 

if u want 12's. you will need motor mounts all of them and traction bars. if u want warrenty go with a stage tune and work on it form there. and get a CAI and gmpp header and full cat back. or delete cat. depending on state it is legal. and if you have acess to hpt it will be easier than u think. i know of a 2.2 ion qc with procharger in the 12.95 sec range..

 

so if i dont woory about being in the 12 and just get a stage 2 with intake exahuset headers ext. and a tune i should be fine cus i dont have warranty so i cant be blowin my motor or breakin my axles. with that can i stay away from needed the 2 gauges to observe nock and airfuel ration....and whats the deal on reflashing

 

he doesnt have a 2.2, a gmpp header adds like 3 whp its not worth it get a real header , stage 2 injectors arent big enough to run smaller than a 2.9 pulley which wont get you into the 12's just look at this thread man all these guys are running 2.6 pulleys and there still in the 13's
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...rter+mile+list


k first of all the stage 2 kit is made by general motors and it comes with a tune second it comes with i believe there 42 pound injectors , a belt , and a 3 inch pulley. Then you can get one of the ten headers that are out but i recomend that if you get a header from one company get the same companys downpipe , I myself went with ZZPerformance header downpipe combo it has a 2.89 in collector and a 3 in downpipe that bolts up to the stock exhaust , then after you get the header and the downpipe i would get corsa exhaust if i had the money but i want tons of power so i need to save money and get a cheaper custom exhaust . Get a nice intake like fujita or jpb all that should cost you about 1600 with labor and get an ingalls stiffy for 150 it limits wheel hop and thats all you need. I mean i guess you could get a wideband or a scanguage but its definately not needed. I know tons of people who are running stage 2 header back exhaust and an intake with no guages

 

thank man realy apreciate the responses.....as far as the pulley if 2+ comes with 3 inch pulley why people running 2.7 or 2.5 exc. are they geting more boost with smaller pulley and if so what is a pulley that is to small....again thanks for the replies

plus i dont really need to worry about labor for some of it i could do plus i have a buddy who is really keen on this stuff but i would want to wait to tune the car till i have everything on it

 

stage 2 is very conservative , the people that are running smaller pulleys are running aftermarket pulleys that arent warrantied through the factory stage 2 is supposed to be warrantied through your factory warranty , the smallest pulley you can run on our m62 supercharger is 2.5 but you have to machine your snout after 2.7 because the pulley wont fit, yes they are getting more boost but they also have 60lb injectors instead of 42.5 and there tuned more aggressive with full 3 in exhaust , like i said stage 2 is just a nice conservative upgrade it is supposed to give you 241 hp and then with the full exhaust and intake your looking at about id say 250WHP which should run about a 13.7 or so with good tires **** maybe even a 13.4 if you can really drive , there is one guy on here hatrickstu who was cuttin a 11.23 in the 1000ft which is equivalent to a 13.3 and he had stage 2 slicks and a muffler i believe

if you get gm stage 2 intake exhaust header and a downpipe you DONT NEED A TUNE it comes with one

 

I havent run my car through a dyno or done a run at the track yet, but I can tell you right now that stage 2 + a gmpp catback exhaust, man this thing is a freaking banshee. Quite honestly, I think I am going to do an intake, the downpipe and a header, and I'll be mostly done with power mods. I might throw a stage 3 or 2.9 pulley on the charger, but that wont be for a while. (stage 2 comes with ~3.1 pulley I think) This is my daily driver though, so that is the main reason I am not going hog wild (that and I still have the loan... last thing I want to do is blow an engine on a car that I still owe gmac on)

Also, I may have missed it, but I think you'd need to look into cooling mods. I'll probably end up doing the dual pass endplate with option B (additional surge tank) as well, just to make the car happier.

About the gauges: I want to get an aeroforce, and maybe a wideband down the road if I do anything else, but I dont want to mount them on the A-pillar, so someone is going to have to come out with a cluster pod (I think this is still working in the appearance section)

 

Didnt bother reading the above but here is a sure fire guaranteed 12s assuming u can drive:

Largest intake u can find (3")
intense trans mouns
exedy clutch
Dss axles
15" saab 900 rims and shave calipers
add drag slicks
2.5" intense pulley
zzp snout tool
intense larger idler
gm stage 2 belt
60lb injectors and harness
intense spark plugs
3" catless downpipe and 3" catback (not really required but you MUST cut your cat out...or ur just gonna clog it...imo...when i tune em they go anyway lol)

WIDEBAND gauge
Interceptor
Someone with HP tuners
alky injection

Now we have ran a car at 13.4@108 with just
K&N intake
2.5 and intense idler
60lbers
cat delete
intense plugs
my tune
Stock rims/tires

axles later went tho...and needed a clutch later

No matter what anybody says a stage2 kit aint getting u 12s unless ur spraying...then ur technically stage 3

 

@djt81185
I was just saying what I've got, and what I thought of it...
And you'd need to add dual pass plate or an extra H/E to that 12's lineup wouldnt you?
If I'm wrong on this cooling stuff someone let me know

 

well if you dont have a warrenty, then **** gm stg 2. CA stage 6 FTW

 

Yeah, if warranty is something that you dont care about, there are better things out there, but riskier. But if you have warranty concerns, gm stage 2 is pretty nice. And on the gauges, I still want to get them personally, but they wouldnt be as crucial as if you were doing full aftermarket.

 

I wasnt singling anyone out john...I was just saying...if u run meth more cooling really isnt needed but it wouldnt hurt either

 

Ah ok, well flapping tongue retracted. And I hadnt thought of the meth injection cooling things down. My bad...

 

1. Bully Clutch Stage 4 6-Puck kit $659
2. Driveshaft Shop Axles $700
3. Intense Motor Mount Bushings/CAB's $259
4. TAG Stage 2 Kit http://tagracecraft.com/Package.html $1150
5. Corsa Touring 2.5" catback $650
6. ZZP header and downpipe $439
7. NGK Wideband Gauge $220
TOTAL $4077

This is pretty much the cheapest way I can figure out how to get you in the high 12's. This however does not include a set of drag radials you will need. You can do the airbox mod instead of getting an intake as well for another $40.

 

I can go 0-150 and my blower has water condension on teh outside of it LOL

 

Thats gotta look cool

 

personally i would say dont go for 12's until your comfortable in the 13's

these cars are not easy to launch. I would go with a middle of the road setup, something around a 2.9ish pully (stage 2 possibly) get some slicks/DR's and some solid mounts.

Go to the track and get yourself into the 13's with consistancy.
get used to how picky this car can be at the track.

THEN pour the money at the engine.

just my 0.02c