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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Well lets put it this way he is getting the whole lsj car for 1700 dollars so let the debate go on...and lsj would be a better platform than le5 so unless you can build the le5 for less than 2000 i dont see built motor any cheaper..
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Don't start the lsj VS lnf debate either... I will lock this ****
lol o no thats not the intended road by any means, as a matter of fact I was pretty hesitant typing it lol
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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If you or someone you can afford to pay is a hell of a fabricator, go for it!
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gtftw
Well lets put it this way he is getting the whole lsj car for 1700 dollars so let the debate go on...and lsj would be a better platform than le5 so unless you can build the le5 for less than 2000 i dont see built motor any cheaper..
thats actually debatable. the extra displacement and variable cam timing is actually quite a bonus. supercharging a 2.4l has been proven to work well, some forged pistons and better rods and you could for sure push the eaton m62 to its limits, it would even take everything a tvs could throw at it.

if i were doing this, id buy the parts car, grab the supercharger setup and part the rest out. the lsj swap is whatever, although id sell it off and use the money to put into the 2.4l. the tranny swap is going to be the difficult part, your going to need to source parts from a g6 gxp to make it work. id honestly keep the automatic.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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On all the malibu forums ive been able to find is that all the automatic transmissions in the malibus wont hold any power and are dropping them left and right
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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The LNF motor is way better than the LSJ, you should swap in a LNF instead.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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Whats the year of your car? and positive you have a 4 speed?

I recommend doing a turbo install instead of swapping motors depending on the year of your car
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gtftw
On all the malibu forums ive been able to find is that all the automatic transmissions in the malibus wont hold any power and are dropping them left and right
Then build the trans
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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The oppurtunity is to buy an lsj car and not an lnf also its an 08 malibu with a 4 speed
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Then build the trans
so now you guys are saying build the motor build the transmission and then boost it..there is noway its achieved for under 6k dollars
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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whole cobalts ss lsj=2000 dollars
built tranny built motor and then boost=?
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Your LSJ swap will not just cost 2000 dollars.....
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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so now you guys are saying build the motor build the transmission and then boost it..there is noway its achieved for under 6k dollars
A 2.4 can handle a stage 2 m62 setup. If funds are tight and cheap is what you seek boost is not for you.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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Still a stock 2.4 with just valve springs can handle boost just fine.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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I was thinking putting a s/c on my 06 malibu that has a 2.2. not trying to threadjack but glad to see someone else has the same idea
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Your LSJ swap will not just cost 2000 dollars.....
the whole car i can pick up right now for only 2000 dollars so what else will i need from there?
axles?
What else?

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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 06_ion2
Still a stock 2.4 with just valve springs can handle boost just fine.
08 = weak rods
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Swapping an LSJ AND manual transmission into an 08 Malibu is a massive undertaking. First thing youre gonna need to realize is that its illegal. its against federal law to install a 2007 engine into a 2008 vehicle.
Next you need custom exhaust as there was never an ECO powered manual trans Z body
Then youll need an F40 transmission out of a G6
Youll also need the G6s axles
shift cables
shift control lever
Brake pedal assembly
Clutch pedal assembly
clutch master cylinder
transmission mounts
Then youul need an F40 bellhousing out of a Saab 9.3 2.0T
The you need to drill all the holes for the shift cables and hydraulic clutch setup
Then youll need to custom make a center console or swap to a G6 complete dash and console
You need figure out how to rewire your reverse lights
You need to rewire your vehicle speed sensor and tune for different setup
You need to rewire your transmission shift interlock
You need to figure out if you want to wire in a clutch switch

Then Once all thats done, youre just gonna install all the M62 stuff onto your LE5 because youre out of your mind if you really wanna put an LSJ in a 2008 Malibu. Theres no upside to it
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Swapping an LSJ AND manual transmission into an 08 Malibu is a massive undertaking. First thing youre gonna need to realize is that its illegal. its against federal law to install a 2007 engine into a 2008 vehicle.
Next you need custom exhaust as there was never an ECO powered manual trans Z body
Then youll need an F40 transmission out of a G6
Youll also need the G6s axles
shift cables
shift control lever
Brake pedal assembly
Clutch pedal assembly
clutch master cylinder
transmission mounts
Then youul need an F40 bellhousing out of a Saab 9.3 2.0T
The you need to drill all the holes for the shift cables and hydraulic clutch setup
Then youll need to custom make a center console or swap to a G6 complete dash and console
You need figure out how to rewire your reverse lights
You need to rewire your vehicle speed sensor and tune for different setup
You need to rewire your transmission shift interlock
You need to figure out if you want to wire in a clutch switch

Then Once all thats done, youre just gonna install all the M62 stuff onto your LE5 because youre out of your mind if you really wanna put an LSJ in a 2008 Malibu. Theres no upside to it
Explain to me how its against federal law and also why you have to switch transmissions?
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nhanson
08 = weak rods
How do you specifically know all 08's have weak rods without looking at a casting #?
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 06_ion2
How do you specifically know all 08's have weak rods without looking at a casting #?
I don't. But 08 was the magic year for cobalts
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Swapping an LSJ AND manual transmission into an 08 Malibu is a massive undertaking. First thing youre gonna need to realize is that its illegal. its against federal law to install a 2007 engine into a 2008 vehicle.
Next you need custom exhaust as there was never an ECO powered manual trans Z body
Then youll need an F40 transmission out of a G6
Youll also need the G6s axles
shift cables
shift control lever
Brake pedal assembly
Clutch pedal assembly
clutch master cylinder
transmission mounts
Then youul need an F40 bellhousing out of a Saab 9.3 2.0T
The you need to drill all the holes for the shift cables and hydraulic clutch setup
Then youll need to custom make a center console or swap to a G6 complete dash and console
You need figure out how to rewire your reverse lights
You need to rewire your vehicle speed sensor and tune for different setup
You need to rewire your transmission shift interlock
You need to figure out if you want to wire in a clutch switch

Then Once all thats done, youre just gonna install all the M62 stuff onto your LE5 because youre out of your mind if you really wanna put an LSJ in a 2008 Malibu. Theres no upside to it
The reason I'm wanting to swap is because the 2.4 is a ridiculously weak motor and by swapping, the motor has potential. Forged pistons and rods for the 2.4 are 1200 dollars alone without any other parts. Granted, they are rated at 800 hp, but i can run decent hp out of the lsj motor with only a cai, exhaust, minor bolt ons and a more aggressive tune. I'm not trying to make a race car, i just want something people have never seen before, will always remember and something that will be respected. Also, i too want to know how is that illegal?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:38 AM
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What? Forged rods that can take 3-400 hp car 250 bucks for a set at your dealership. Just need to make sure you tell them its an 06 or 07 2.4. Even that with your goals of the LSJ the LE5 would make more torque and still handle the power if you just put those mods on it along with the blower off the LSJ.

It is illegal by federal law to install an older engine in a new emissions controlled car. But they have not problem doing same year or newer into older.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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Will be much cheaper to turbo/s/c the 2.4 and build it a little if you are really worried about blowing it up. The 2.4L block is superior. You could swap the rotating assembly and toss some boost at it for far less effort than an LSJ swap, and the built auto would be better than the fragile LSJ manual transmissions anyway.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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You are all missing the point though. Its not a point of having the fastest gen 7 malibu in the world, its just customizing. Uniqueness is the key
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