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2.8, meth, 60s.. Advantages over 2.9 with 42s?

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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2.8, meth, 60s.. Advantages over 2.9 with 42s?

As the title says, what are the advantages if I was to buy 60s with a 2.8 and a basic meth kit? What kind of additional power can I expect? Would it be worth the ~500 dollars for the upgrade? Thanks for any info.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Theres been alot of threads about this lately...

Smaller pulley = more power.
Meth = Cooling + Efficiency (Power)

If you are planning on doing any more than a 2.8, NO... You can run a 2.8" with 42.5s espicially if your running meth.

If you wanna end up running a 2.6 or something, and you overall would like more power, Then the 60s would be the way to go.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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If you are planning on doing any more than a 2.8, NO... You can run a 2.8" with 42.5s espicially if your running meth.
From what I have gathered, it's not the heat issue when it comes to a 2.8 with 42's. It's the fact that the injectors are past maxed out. My injectors (42's) were running at 110% IDC on the GM stage 2 tune.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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From what I have gathered, it's not the heat issue when it comes to a 2.8 with 42's. It's the fact that the injectors are past maxed out. My injectors (42's) were running at 110% IDC on the GM stage 2 tune.
lucky you. haha im at 122% on a 2.9 and stage tune
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
lucky you. haha im at 122% on a 2.9 and stage tune
And this equals less power, correct?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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And this equals less power, correct?
nah, just means the injectors are being overworked. an injector is a solenoid, were just exceeding its rating for how fast it can open and close
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Go with 60s and look into a return style fuel system. You dont want to go through what i am(look at sig)...
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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a return fuel system isnt necessary for a 2.8" and 60s. not until you go TVS or turbo is that necessary.

I also am debating on whether to go with methanol for my 2.8" and 60# set up. I have a front mount h/e but my iat2 still hovers in the 135-140 range after a 1/4 mile pull in the summer time. (i dont beat on it when its cold)
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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a return fuel system isnt necessary for a 2.8" and 60s. not until you go TVS or turbo is that necessary.
Isnt necessary but beneficial and no starving #4 at wot.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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You dont need a return style for that..

And you shouldnt run anything under the 3" with a stage 2 tune..

You will need a custum tune.. But it will run, and my IDCs are NOT even 90%
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
You dont need a return style for that..

And you shouldnt run anything under the 3" with a stage 2 tune..

You will need a custum tune.. But it will run, and my IDCs are NOT even 90%
If you're running a 2.8 on 42s, I guarantee you that your IDCs are over 110 and if they aren't, your car is leaned out way too much..
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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No its not..

And no.. its not ...
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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pw is more important thnan idc's becuase thats more or less a calculation. Whats your pw up top.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:47 AM
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How do you know your IDCs aren't over 90?? I thought you couldn't open HPT. I switched back to 42s for a couple days and my IDCs at WOT were 134...
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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you IDCs will be a lot less obviously with the 2.8/60s than with the 2.9/42s. also the meth will help reduce your knock if not eliminate it all together, plus add a little reliability and a slight power increase. you could possibly run a 2.8 and keep the 42s if you were to run meth. but personally, i wouldn't. so IMO, an upgrade to 2.8/60s/meth/retune. is worth the money
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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When i was with my tuner i sat there and watched the logs..

Im not sure what my PW is.. i know he took away some power so i wouldnt go over my idcs (pws).
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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really and how did he take away power?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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Dude i have no idea im not a tuner.

Probly cut back fueling a bit... would be my guess?

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
When i was with my tuner i sat there and watched the logs..

Im not sure what my PW is.. i know he took away some power so i wouldnt go over my idcs (pws).
Ok that makes a little more sense. Lol what did he do to take away power? Limit boost
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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yea in first gear.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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i think he means its not as an agressive tune as it could have been
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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lol i know. But 90%...come on
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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90% what?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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hmm, seems a little weird to me. first gear puts virtually no load on the car since its over so fast. The two biggest oplayers for power on these motors are timing and afr. When you tune a car for less power generally its a more rich tune. That the reason for asking for the pw, that way you can see if his pid was off for idc's in hpt.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
You dont need a return style for that..

And you shouldnt run anything under the 3" with a stage 2 tune..

You will need a custum tune.. But it will run, and my IDCs are NOT even 90%
Im calling BS
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