About top speed on cobalt
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About top speed on cobalt
Some random info for you guys. Well tonight car was running good so for kicks i decided to do another top speed run but this time at a different place than I usually make them at. This new place had more level ground and I noticed that the cobalt ss/sc does have a fuel cut limiter somewhere not too far past 160MPH. I had hit 160 on the speedo for 3-4 seconds and was a hair past 6000 rpms and then car hit a definate fuel cut. Since I'm the only one on here thats ever said they've hit 160+ in this car theres no one to back up my claims and adding a passenger to the car to video tape would hinder me to much to hit 160 in a decent amount of time. I'll figure some way to get a vid of it one day to show you guys.
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Ok Im not going to say its not posable. Im not going to flame. But I want some proof of this claim. The main reson being that GM said they did not put a speed limiter on the car.
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^^^ I'm with him. What mods do you have, because i read that the car was drag limited at 146... I'd think you at least need a pulley, I/H/E to add 14 mph...and it to be lowered.
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160 my ass its a 4 cyl and carand driver said drag limited at 154 ive done 147 my self and that was about it. come on the gto is governed at 158 gm would not let there 4 cly be faster then there 8s
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Get a portable GPS with a Top Speed Indicator.
It will be easier to prove as you do not need hands and you won’t have to take your hands off the wheel.
That is very high on the Tachometer for any throttle loading. Shifting in spikes to the redline is normal, but sustained high RPM driving under full load will cause the cranks minor defects to deform. (Crank Walk) the crank can erodes the main bearings in one place and then crank goes slightly off center under loading. This places higher stress on the rods as they are now not aligned with the crank. Another thing to think about is tensile loading of the rods. Metal is strong but stress over and over will build up and create weakness. Force is exponential with RPM. Double the engine speed, you get much more than double the loading on the internals. Metal fatigue is cumulative and you have a new car. It's like making a bunch of $10.00 payments from a $100.00 account. One day you'll be broke and there is no overdraft on your car.
Not trying to rain on your parade but speed limiters are there for your safety and to keep people from busting the engine so GM does not have to do too many warranty claims and look like they build shitty cars (They Don't).
I'm just happy that you aren't doing that to my car..
I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you haven’t thought of before. Most cars have a breaking point, this is a very new car and the SS owners are just starting to push the **** out of the car as far as modifications and speed. We have already seen than the clutch is weak, we will soon find the limits of a “Top Ten Engine”
Enjoy..
It will be easier to prove as you do not need hands and you won’t have to take your hands off the wheel.
That is very high on the Tachometer for any throttle loading. Shifting in spikes to the redline is normal, but sustained high RPM driving under full load will cause the cranks minor defects to deform. (Crank Walk) the crank can erodes the main bearings in one place and then crank goes slightly off center under loading. This places higher stress on the rods as they are now not aligned with the crank. Another thing to think about is tensile loading of the rods. Metal is strong but stress over and over will build up and create weakness. Force is exponential with RPM. Double the engine speed, you get much more than double the loading on the internals. Metal fatigue is cumulative and you have a new car. It's like making a bunch of $10.00 payments from a $100.00 account. One day you'll be broke and there is no overdraft on your car.
Not trying to rain on your parade but speed limiters are there for your safety and to keep people from busting the engine so GM does not have to do too many warranty claims and look like they build shitty cars (They Don't).
I'm just happy that you aren't doing that to my car..
I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you haven’t thought of before. Most cars have a breaking point, this is a very new car and the SS owners are just starting to push the **** out of the car as far as modifications and speed. We have already seen than the clutch is weak, we will soon find the limits of a “Top Ten Engine”
Enjoy..
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Get a portable GPS with a Top Speed Indicator.
It will be easier to prove as you do not need hands and you won’t have to take your hands off the wheel.
That is very high on the Tachometer for any throttle loading. Shifting in spikes to the redline is normal, but sustained high RPM driving under full load will cause the cranks minor defects to deform. (Crank Walk) the crank can erodes the main bearings in one place and then crank goes slightly off center under loading. This places higher stress on the rods as they are now not aligned with the crank. Another thing to think about is tensile loading of the rods. Metal is strong but stress over and over will build up and create weakness. Force is exponential with RPM. Double the engine speed, you get much more than double the loading on the internals. Metal fatigue is cumulative and you have a new car. It's like making a bunch of $10.00 payments from a $100.00 account. One day you'll be broke and there is no overdraft on your car.
Not trying to rain on your parade but speed limiters are there for your safety and to keep people from busting the engine so GM does not have to do too many warranty claims and look like they build shitty cars (They Don't).
I'm just happy that you aren't doing that to my car..
I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you haven’t thought of before. Most cars have a breaking point, this is a very new car and the SS owners are just starting to push the **** out of the car as far as modifications and speed. We have already seen than the clutch is weak, we will soon find the limits of a “Top Ten Engine”
Enjoy..
It will be easier to prove as you do not need hands and you won’t have to take your hands off the wheel.
That is very high on the Tachometer for any throttle loading. Shifting in spikes to the redline is normal, but sustained high RPM driving under full load will cause the cranks minor defects to deform. (Crank Walk) the crank can erodes the main bearings in one place and then crank goes slightly off center under loading. This places higher stress on the rods as they are now not aligned with the crank. Another thing to think about is tensile loading of the rods. Metal is strong but stress over and over will build up and create weakness. Force is exponential with RPM. Double the engine speed, you get much more than double the loading on the internals. Metal fatigue is cumulative and you have a new car. It's like making a bunch of $10.00 payments from a $100.00 account. One day you'll be broke and there is no overdraft on your car.
Not trying to rain on your parade but speed limiters are there for your safety and to keep people from busting the engine so GM does not have to do too many warranty claims and look like they build shitty cars (They Don't).
I'm just happy that you aren't doing that to my car..
I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you haven’t thought of before. Most cars have a breaking point, this is a very new car and the SS owners are just starting to push the **** out of the car as far as modifications and speed. We have already seen than the clutch is weak, we will soon find the limits of a “Top Ten Engine”
Enjoy..
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And I don't care really who doesn't belive this claim its not really that important in the big picture sense of things but please by all means muster up the curage to go try somthing like that yourself in your cobalt. I've got better things to do than put my life at risk and chance losing my car and license to come post lies on the Internet.
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Originally Posted by stotte20
160 my ass its a 4 cyl and carand driver said drag limited at 154 ive done 147 my self and that was about it. come on the gto is governed at 158 gm would not let there 4 cly be faster then there 8s
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Originally Posted by 05BlackCobaltSS
^^^ I'm with him. What mods do you have, because i read that the car was drag limited at 146... I'd think you at least need a pulley, I/H/E to add 14 mph...and it to be lowered.
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Originally Posted by Badmunky
Ok Im not going to say its not posable. Im not going to flame. But I want some proof of this claim. The main reson being that GM said they did not put a speed limiter on the car.
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I've got better things to do than put my life at risk and chance losing my car and license to come post lies on the Internet.
you just did it twice.
150's not really that fast. I took my brother's R1 over 140 in second gear with the front tire off the ground most of the way there and still had 4 more gears to go. this is more plausible becuase people know they're actually that fast, but you can't add 25hp to get an additional 20mph top end on an already 140mph car
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
Some random info for you guys. Well tonight car was running good so for kicks i decided to do another top speed run but this time at a different place than I usually make them at. This new place had more level ground and I noticed that the cobalt ss/sc does have a fuel cut limiter somewhere not too far past 160MPH. I had hit 160 on the speedo for 3-4 seconds and was a hair past 6000 rpms and then car hit a definate fuel cut. Since I'm the only one on here thats ever said they've hit 160+ in this car theres no one to back up my claims and adding a passenger to the car to video tape would hinder me to much to hit 160 in a decent amount of time. I'll figure some way to get a vid of it one day to show you guys.
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
you just did it twice.
150's not really that fast. I took my brother's R1 over 140 in second gear with the front tire off the ground most of the way there and still had 4 more gears to go. this is more plausible becuase people know they're actually that fast, but you can't add 25hp to get an additional 20mph top end on an already 140mph car
150's not really that fast. I took my brother's R1 over 140 in second gear with the front tire off the ground most of the way there and still had 4 more gears to go. this is more plausible becuase people know they're actually that fast, but you can't add 25hp to get an additional 20mph top end on an already 140mph car
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Originally Posted by djt81185
Dude did you have 4 people in your car and return it too stock??? LOL j/p where is that kid anyway. I've been sustained at 5900 in 5th when I just had a K&N and the tach just sat there. Interesting there is a limiter...do you have a wideband or a logger? I know once you hit IAT2's of 180+ the car dumps fuel to cool the motor. I know on a 3rd gear run to redline in 32 degree weather I was around 120+. Holding it for that long may have got you above the 180 thresh hlod and had your car go into cool down mod. If you can if/when u make another run see if you can watch or log you iat2's. Keep both hands and both eyes on the road though. We dont need nothing happening to ya.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
It felt just like bouncing off the limiter in any other gear. And since when I got my car dynoed it showed my air fuel at 13.4-6 at redline you can see that at around 5200 rpms and up my injectors where maxed out. So even if the computer wanted to dump in fuel to cool things off during one of my high speed runs it wouldn't be able to. Theres just no more fuel to give.
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Originally Posted by OUTPR4MZ
I def agree with the SS hittin 160mph. Minez done 161mph on the 407..( Ont ) good ****
Edit: and welcome to the site ..nice to see another Southern Ontario SS/SC
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Originally Posted by BigJavi52
I've Only Hit 135 Mph But I Was In Forth Gear And I Never Put It In To Fifth. So How Can You Do 160 Mph.
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I don't see why everytime someone claims they did something a bit unusual almost everyone starts yelling at them and calling them liars, honestly who would randomly go on a board and start some random bullshit thread??? I believe him, it's not like he said he went 500mph, though I am curious whether or not there is an actual cut off or if the engine is trying to cool down...