Cams will be a great option for this car some time in the future, but as of now they are a horrible bang/buck mod. We're talking $600+ for gains between 12-25 whp. That's awefull. Cars need good tuning when cams are used and we have no real tuning. I'd wait a while untill we have a viable tuning option.


Use the $600+ towards some nice wheels/tires.

 

So Aaron, do you have a PN# from COMP on the blower cams FOR THE 2.0 LITRE??
You DO know the numbers in the COMP catalog WILL NOT WORK for the 2.0... as they are for the 2.2 with the shorter exhaust camshaft.
I was told by CC that they were going to issue a seperate number for the 2.0L versions of these cams (same grind but different exhaust cam)
WopOnTour

 

basically because the Crank and Cam angle don't match, when I start the Car the cam has to be fall within the tolerance programed, if not the engine won't sent out the spark. just a safety thing which is great if you have the stock cams.

 

lol... i have the same thing.. minor inconvenience for the added power. im going to get the stage 2 put in by JBP soon. might as well have more power for the same thing.

 

The Triflow is awesome because it builds so much boost, but the after effect is, the car won't start unless the cam stops in the right position.

I usually don't mind unless I have someone new in the car, or I'm around a group of people, then I just pray she starts on the first crank, so I don't look like and idiot. you know the kind i mean ( people with 6" dual exhaust civics or anything else ).

but hold off until he's finished tuning mine.

 

quick up date,

I ran the by-pass mod for fun again last night, and learned something new.
when I said I was hitting the rev limiter at 110kpa that was on second gear, the tach & boost gauge really aren't that great. it must have been to quick for the gauges on 2nd.

anyway, I tried on 3rd & 4th and the boost went as far as 120 kpa (17.4 psi)
I couldn't believe how hard the thing was pulling on 4th with this mod.

 

Hey spooler and player 1,

Either of you guys planning on posting a sound clip so when can hear what your cars sound like with the cams installed??

 

Im also interested in the blower cam from comp. Need part #'s and pricing.

 

I was just thinking earlier that this thread must have died. Apparently we will never get to hear any sound clips.

 

so player, what if i do the boost bypass with my stage 2, is that safe???
id only do it at the track or dyno, im already getting something like 125+ kpa now so if i do that boost mod she may be flyin like a ****...waht do u think, deal or no deal??

 

I will probally go with the comp blower cam once tuning is available for our cars other wise it is not worth it to me for my everyday driver. A cam is not a simple mod something that will most likely be more beneficial with other mods to support it. Intake, ported blower, header, and exhaust will all help with the bigger intake/exhaust flow of the cam. Most likely it would be wise to change your valves and valve srpings at the same time...atleast that's what I would do. I am going to do the pistons, cam, valves, etc all at once for one labor fee.

 

Well the springs would be a good idea, and not such a big deal as you can do them (and the cams) without pulling the head.
COMP was supposed to publish a new set of part numbers for the LSJ as their current catalog shows cams and PN#s for the 2.2 Only.
WopOnTour

 

there is no need for you to do the bypass mod. the stage one injectors provide you with more then enough feul, that why gm reprogramed it and the by-pass valve is no longer set at 15psi like it is stock.

like i said I only do it on the occasionally when I run at the track or similar situations.

Sorry i didn't post a clip, the thread died before i even knew that anyone had asked, whats the best site to host an audio clip?

 

I think any engine with a cam upgrade would greatly benifit from some tuning.
I know for my self the JBP Stage 2 Cam requires some tuneing to release it's full potential.
just by doing the by-pass mod it feels like there is more power through out the range especially top end.

 

Regarding the P0017...
Are you 100% certain the cam sensor is correctly timed?? Did YOU install it or did you have it done?
There IS a trick to it as it needs to be timed at #4 TDC compression NOT #1 as traditionally.
The cam/sensor drive to crank relationship shouldnt have changed by altering the grind alone.
Was your stock cam reground or did they use GM blanks??
IMO the HEX drive for the cam sensor reluctor must not have been on the correct centerline when the cams were ground. (not something most grinders would consider)
HTH
WopOnTour

 

JBP installed it for me, but I'll have to ask him that, but the main reason for the code is because it is a staggerd cam. it has to do with his Triflow system, which is why it produceing so much boost and why the is an increase in power from 2800RPM right to the end, and not just at one end of the power band like some traditional cams

 

TurboTech how much are the stage 1 cams for the 2.2 eco

 

www.putfile.com is good.

 

http://media.putfile.com/exhaust-not...P-stage-2-cams

hope that works

 

Gosh i have to download a plugin first

 

They don't sound too agressive or much different from stock but you can definitly tell there is a sound difference.

 

Please see www.TurboTechRacing.com for info. They are around $440 for a pair.

 

i think tunning can be done with the cam gears witch are just as much as the cams .

and also with the intense maf-t..

 

Yo, anyone have any idea what the average shop will charge me to install some cams? Just trying to start budgeting my money.

 

but like you said the gears are just as much as the cams them selves, and it is a vary labor intensive job.

so it would probably be cheaper to have computer tuning done. only thing is, which is better to have done. tuning, or gears?