2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Anyone see what's wrong with this? (DynoSheetInside)









And here's a vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHrPvTdPm-Q
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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either some one fucked up your tune or your fuel injectors are FUBAR. What are your IDC's?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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you heat soaked? you could probably use exhaust upgrades if you don't already have them
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Heat soaked as HELL and it was 98 degrees out.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Normal numbers for a stock car...
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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revs out to far to be stock, and the peak numbers seem a bit short of where they should be.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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yea but with the intense stage 3..its your tune..
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Nice chunk of run 1 is missing.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SSSCEnthusiast
Heat soaked as HELL and it was 98 degrees out.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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My mods are in my sig, and its custom tuned.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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From what i can see we have similar mods, 60s, 2.8, methanol. I put down 258/243 on a dynojet with 15% load. Who tuned it? AFR and timing?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BriantheLion26
From what i can see we have similar mods, 60s, 2.8, methanol. I put down 258/243 on a dynojet with 15% load. Who tuned it? AFR and timing?

Guy said this was an inertia dyno, so idk what the load was.

Chris Dembowski (streetdreamz) tuned it, 12.5, 12* timing advance I think.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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wow, your timing is low, that's the explanation for the craptastic numbers. advance the timing till you see some knock and then back it off 1 degrees. With methanol, you should be able to get over 20 degrees advanced easy.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Streetdreamz? lol. 12.5 is to lean. 12.0 would be the highest I'd shoot for. Mid 11's would be a lot more ideal.

He pulled timing to get rid of knock at 12.5 afr. If he would have went for 11.5 afr, he could have ran more timing and got better number because the timing is making up for the slower burn speed of the air/fuel mixture being richer.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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12.5 is good for the most power, might even be able to go a tad leaner, but at the same time, it's definitely not a safe tune. The low timing advance is the reason for the low numbers though.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
12.5 is good for the most power, might even be able to go a tad leaner, but at the same time, it's definitely not a safe tune. The low timing advance is the reason for the low numbers though.
These motors seem to more prone to knock due to the heaton. A richer air/fuel would allow more timing making better numbers.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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These motors seem to more prone to knock due to the heaton. A richer air/fuel would allow more timing making better numbers.
true, but he is using water/meth injection, which usually allows for max timing and a lean afr due to a higher octane and the cooling.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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true, but he is using water/meth injection, which usually allows for max timing and a lean afr due to a higher octane and the cooling.
Meth is a band aid fix to a bigger problem. Most tuners won't tune cars on meth because of what can happen if the meth runs out.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Im running straight ethanol. No water in it.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Meth is a band aid fix to a bigger problem. Most tuners won't tune cars on meth because of what can happen if the meth runs out.
that's your opinion. I know tons of tuners around here, only a few don't like meth. The rest all use it.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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methanol isn't a band-aid, or atleast it isnt supposed to be used as one. its an efficient cooling tool and if tuned properly, can yield decent power increases. I have tuned several SS/SC on methanol. they all like about 23-24 degrees of timing up top, and high 11s AFR.

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Im running straight ethanol. No water in it.
Thats not the greatest idea in the world. atleast run 70% meth / 30% water.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Chad your estimates on the numbers are way off lol. Your car will peak at 11.8 given your lack of dual pass and bigger heat exchanger. Your timing will peak at 22 with the alky. We know your car was heat soaked on the dyno because you were out beating on it 20 minutes before the car was strapped on the dyno.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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thanks for the answer 2 months late , your a great toon er
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Lol I had no idea this thread even existed!

2 days before the dyno his car was pulling a good 8 degrees of timing due to pure heat from IAT2s soaring over 180. He needs a dual pass endplate and he knows it. Otherwise the car is tuned for about 22 degrees advanced on a COLD COLD day that will keep his temps down to 140-150ish.
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