Im trying to achieve high 12's before this summer ends and probably need 1 more upgrade to do so. An extra 15-20+ horses from a header should do the trick and I was wondering WHAT ARE THE BEST HEADERS OUT THERE? Ive been looking around, but it seems like the header market is real shady for the SS/SC. Does anyone know where I can get good 3" headers?

BTW, Im currently running Stage 2, CAI, and get perfect traction with a torque dampener.

 

The only headers I know of are these:

Weapon-R $574.99 http://anbauto.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=29



Pacesetter $239.99 (It's for 2.2 but soon to be 2.0) http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...&idproduct=879




GM Honed Manifold $295.95 http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1381C146.aspx

 

I hear the Weapon-R header is good, do a search on it

 

Yeah I, as well, heard the weapon R is good. JBP makes both a 4-2-1 header and a 4-1 header. Vibrant is coming out soon as well with a long tube 4-2-1 header.

Hey CTCOBALTSSS: Pacesetter is coming out for a header for the 2.0???? How much will it be? And will it be a 4-2-1 or a 4-1? Also how big are the collectors?

 

ur not gonna run high 12s with your current setup, You will need header plus exhaust catback and drag radials or slicks at the very least!! Sorry to burst your bubble, but you will be lucky to run a low 13 with that setup.

 

Vibrant is tieing up some loose ends on this item........Should be out VERY soon.

 

You'll need slicks, and a 2.6" pulley more than likely. A header will help, but just adding a header won't do it, IMO.

 

Yeah, the Intense stage 3 kit with 2.6 pulley (or in conjunction with gm stage 1 with the 7000rpm rev limiter), exhaust, cai, header, slicks, downpipe, no cat should maybe be good for a high 12.

 

I dunno, itll be close. Gotta figure we need about 300 horses and good traction to pull off 12's. I have the stage kits and a CAI. Gotta figure S2 adds 40+, CAI adds 10-15, and Im running 215 stock. Thats about 265-270 hp. A 3" header should add about 20 horses roughly, so itll be close. Thats approx 285-290 horses after headers. Im also using torque dampeners and have absolutely no wheel hop, so with perfect traction itll be close.

 

Ok, first off its a header not "Headers". If you have 2 im going to be pissed because that means I got ripped off! haha

I hope you achieve your goal of 12's and keep us posted.

 

Hehe, my bad. I will definitely keep ya posted.

 

i rode in a cobalt with the weapon r header... its bad ass i swear.. im going to have to get one. i got the new gm header... but its not living up to the weapon r. but at least i still got my warranty.

 

does a header replace your exhaust? is it basically another term for an exhaust? like catback and magnaflow ect...

 

A header goes from the engine down, part of the exhaust. Basicly you have Header-CAT-CAT Back. Magnaflow is a company that makes performance exhaust.

 

if u get great traction u should invest in a flywheel aswell and deff get some tuning done

 

straight up, ur an idiot if u think ur at 265 270 with just intake and stage 2...

stage 2 on the 3 inch pulley is lousy at best, running it wil a 2.8 and a intake, ull be in the 260 range, there are guys all over redline forums to back up my claim. With the 3 inch pulley ull be maybe 250 whp and ull lack some torque ... prolly in the 215-218 range. With those numbers u should realistically see 13.5 13.6 ....

honestly, to break into the 12's u need, full exhuast (head/dp/cat/2.5-3 inch cat back)
and at least a 2.8 possilbe 2.7 pulley and a torque brace to help with ur 60 ft time.

lets not kid ourselves, and get disapointed in the end.

 

ok people talk bad about ricers doing hp figures but thats ricer math right hter man. hate to burst your buble but u wont gain power from each thing the way u do. each thing will maybe gain u 5 hp peak, your looking at usable power accross the rpm band. with intake exhaust header. gm stage 2, you'll be pushin maybe 270whp, maybe. but your rpm band will be nice and have power through out everything. but please dont do math like that cuz u wont get the numbers like that.

figure, intake will give u 10hp on stock engine, but if u add a header that gains another 10 whp on stock engine, if u have intake u might gain a total of 15 combined hp. not 20. but you'll pick up power where there wasnt that much power. so peak hp u gain less but where u didn thave power you'll gain more.

 

There is also the CTI header as well.

 

What the hell are you talking about? People have been seeing 10-15 hp gains from a CAI after dynoing, and Stage 2 adds 40 horses to the engine. Do the math, 40+10+215= 265. Hell theres a guy that dynoed @ 230 ( it was actually about 232 ) horses with just a CAI. How is it impossible to be @ 265 horses? Do you have a Cobalt SS/SC with a CAI and stage 2? No. How the hell can you make claims like that when you dont even own a Cobalt?

I dont give a **** if you have a car thats runs the same setup as us ( SC 2.0l Ecotec ). Hey get this, did you know that the saturn Ion RL is slightly slower than the Cobalt SS/SC stock? Hey, did you also know that Intense doesnt have the computer codes to correctly reflash your car to get the best potential out of it?

Unless youre running a Cobalt SS/SC with a CAI and Stage 2, I dont give a rats ass what you think about HP gains on our cars.

Im going to get a dyno, and I will show everyone what my car is running. Until then talk is cheap, and I dont have time to argue with pessimistic people who dont even own a freakin cobalt.

BTW, if youre going to call some one an idiot, u better bring some dyno slips and you better own the same car. Straight up, dude.

 

Why the f%$# is it always people who dont even own an SS/SC are the ones talking the most sh&t? Why the hell are they even on the Cobalt forums?

 

Yes. Owned ^

Peace god bless

 

for real man. ricer math at it's best right there. he has no knowledge what-so-ever about cars and he has the nerve to argue like he knows what he is talking about.

 

If you go to houston raceway park in texas in like febuary, you could prolly get close to 12s. That is the fastest track in the whole damn country! Sea level, perfect weather in febuary!

 

stacking hp is highly flaming....you fruit loop...typical ricer as well...bet you say NAWWSSS too right?

Hp stacking, the number one ricer desease...

want to be accurate without a dyno, here is how: 40 + 15 = 55 /2 = 27.5
you can assume safely that with a stage 2 and cai you probably will gain roughly 30hp, so you'll be at about 245 whp....oh wow! isn't it where all of them people with those mods pushing these days? oh right I forgot to add Sticker HP...my bad

 

what a total tool, i have a intense stage 3, corsa exhaust, and a cold air intake. if i add those up stock was 210 , 8(intake), 12(exhaust)and i believe the stage 3 adds about 40 to 45 HP over stock so thats 210+8+12+40=270HP and i definaatley know im not pushing that im probly guarenteed 250 im hoping for 260 but i doubt it. do see what everyone means, you just cant add numbers. if your gonna sit here and be an ******* about it and not try to take anyones advice then you my friend dont know the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground.