Brembo Brake Upgrade Kit for LSJ's BBUK - Crate Engine Depot

Sweet

 

now thats awesome

 

Sweet. Probably my next performance mod.

 

Thats a damn good price for guys who want to upgrade to the T/C brakes and have the wheel clearance.

You can hardly get Brembo calipers for that much new, nevermind an entire kit with rotors, pads, hardware, and hoses!!

 

Just an FYI for the money the lsj breaks are just as good as the brembos. I believe test are all within two feet diff In tests. Down fall to the breamos, can't run a rim smaller than 17s so if you ever want to put nice slicks on smaller rims, you can't. They sure look nice thou. I owned a sstc and still have a sc I couldnt tell a diff. Upgrade pads and rotors on a sc will out performe the brembos in my opinion

 

I loved my Brembos when I had them. But that's still alot for some front brakes.. lol

 

funny thing is, even motortrend shows the

05 cobalt brakes 60 - 0 @ 115 feet
and
08 cobalt brakes 60 - 0 @ 116 feet


the brakes can only hold as much as the tires let them.

 

What you fail to understand is that a one-time stop like that doesn't accurately measure the brakes performance. Both brake systems are strong enough to overwhelm the tires in 1 stop, and therefore both are limited in stopping distance by the traction available to the tires.

The SS S/C brakes are good for daily driving and street use, they stop plenty well. But they will not perform like the Brembo system in a track environment.

The real test is in on the track, where the brakes are applied repeatedly and become extremely hot over the course of each lap. This is where the Brembo system with its fixed caliper 4 pot design and larger rotors really shines. The large aluminum calipers and 12.4" rotors dissipate heat very well, and the rigid design of the caliper reduces caliper flex, which happens as the caliper and hardware becomes fatigued from repeated hard stops. The Brembo calipers are also designed to channel heat away from the brake fluid to prevent the fluid from boiling. Also, because the Brembo uses 4 pistons per caliper, it has much more available braking power at each wheel. So when you're at triple digit speeds, the Brembo system will shed speed much more quickly and consistantly. Pad wear is also much better, because force is applied on each side of the pads (instead of just one side with a slide pin mechanism), and by 2 smaller pistons instead of one large piston.

If you lined up the SS S/C and SS T/C side by side and did repeated 0-100-0MPH braking tests, the difference would become extremely obvious. And no, upgraded pads and rotors on an S/C will still not come close to matching the performance of a stock Brembo car at the track.

 

yup brembo brakes on the track are the **** lol

 

And CED has crazy fast shipping. Seriously impressed

 

I will tell you this. Are Brembos necessary on a street car? No. Mildly modified street car? No. Track car? Yes. They bleed brake dust like a mother ******. But the brake pedal FEEL on them is incredible.. Do they bite a hell of a lot more than stock s/c brakes? A little. But they feel incredible comparatively between the two.

 

Well they are nice I'm not going to lie, I have owned an sstc and sc at the same time, bout been to track, stock for stock the tc is a lil better, with how I have my sc setup, it out performed my tc in every way. But that's modded to stock so it's not really a comparison, and when motortrend did the tests it wasn't a one time shot, it was over and over, gmtunnersorce did test to stock for stock on numbers test more than once. I would have done the brembos on my sc, the only thing that has stopped me is brake fair in wet conditions and they leak/seep If I come across a deal as in steal on a pair I'd pick them up.

 

Bleed brake dust?? I'm assuming you mean the brake dust that ends up on the wheels. That has nothing to do with the calipers and everything to do with your choice in pads. The stock pads create quite a lot of dust. The solution to that is to install ceramic pads, but you will compromise some performance by doing that.

As said, in typical street use you will not notice much difference. The major difference is when you're at high speeds (triple digits), at the track, or with very sticky tires. Thats where the advantage of the Brembo system becomes very apparent. You will lose confidence in the stock S/C brake system after a few successive high speed stops, thats when the brake fade will set in and you'll realize you don't have as much available braking power as you thought you did. There comes a point where you can push the pedal as hard as you can and the brakes don't grab any harder, nor do they have enough power to engage the ABS - thats brake fade. Not a fun thing when you're at the track.

 

^^I agree. I've been wanting to get this kit for a while. And with the ss/sc if you have to slam on the brakes once, they're really pretty good. But after doing a few pulls and then braking hard to get back down to "normal" speeds, you definitely notice major brake fade. At the track it's probably 10x worse. I'll probably need new brakes by spring and instead of buying new pads and rotors for like $300+ or so, I might just buy this kit.

Unless Santa brings it for me!

 

All yall better buy a set so I can ask crate for a free set for starting this thread

Performance wise these would seem like a must have for autoXers and track day boys, dont know why anyone would argue that they arent needed or dont perform better than the stock SC brakes. PLUS I believe these would be larger 12.4" rotors if its straight off the TC.

 

they worked awesome at the track when i went stock pads and rotors no brake fade and i went for 30 min sessions and did 4 sessions

 

(off topic) You have an insane number of posts for just one year

(on topic) Id be interested to see what these would be like with some Hawk hp pads

 

bah i want... but i already have 2 sets of wheels and tires that wouldnt fit with those brakes... itd be costly to replace those as well

 

haha me? and na stock pads are the best at least for the front alot people use hp or hps in the front

 

I was actually one of the people who got Tom to do this a while back. He's had this kit up since summer.

 

Of course I meant throw brake dust on the wheels and of course I know that ceramic pads will help. But I was giving a generalized bit of information based on the stock kit. Take it or leave it.