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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Ceramic Vs. Stainless header

Just searched and really didnt find any information.

What are the pro's and cons of each header?

why pay $100.00 more for ceramic coated?

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Ceramic coating is too keep the heat down. Of course less heat, more power. Also for looks and prevents rust. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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^^^Thats exactly right.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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what headers come with the option of ceramic coating or jet hot coating? I can hardly find any...
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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well.... im sorry to burst peoples bubble.. but Jethot coating does not reduce the temperatures like everyone thinks

Insulation works on 2 factors.. Thermal conductivity and Thickness!

While the jethot coating may have low thermal conductivity, it really lacks sufficient thickness to be effective.

Dont get me wrong, i have jethot coating on my stainless headers.. but thats just to keep em shiny for a longer time without bluing.

On that same note.. if you are truely looking for a ceramic header coating that IS thick enough. look at http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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i dont care about the temperature as much as i do the header cracking in a few years...
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure the idea of ceramic coated headers is to insulate the flow of hot exhaust gas from the engine through the rest of the exhaust system. The hotter the gas, the less dense it is, which means faster flow. It also keeps some excess heat out of your engine bay keeping your engine and under the hood temp down.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Ceramic, theres no benefit to having non coated pipes, the only excuse not to is to be cheap, in which case your obviously not interested in performance if your trying to cut corners like that.

I plan on gettin either the intense or zzp header coated
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Yah i plan on getting my CTI coated as soon as i find someone to coat it.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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well as long as your not buying the coating thinking you'll actually see a performance difference...

Its good for 2 things

1. Appearance
2. Corrosion protection
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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what about heat wrap does this work, as good as ceramic/ at all?
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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DO NOT HEAT WRAP YOUR HEADERS....unless you plan to take them off and service them regularly. Wrap will cause your headers to rust 2x as fast.

http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...s/P4020011.JPG
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltZ SS
I'm pretty sure the idea of ceramic coated headers is to insulate the flow of hot exhaust gas from the engine through the rest of the exhaust system. The hotter the gas, the less dense it is, which means faster flow. It also keeps some excess heat out of your engine bay keeping your engine and under the hood temp down.
thats right in engineering classes specific in fluid and thermodynamics ,the ceramic coated is the keep the gas hot inside the header to maintain a constant air flow and good air emisions ( no viscocity or less)reduces friction in the exhaust line. just in case is a perfect condition to the engine and the exhast.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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If you put a good coat of high temp paint on your header before you rap it you will not have any rust problem. I have taken the rap off after 3 year of use and the header and paint I put on still looked great. The header rap works better than almost any coating. I don't ever get the coating because it is a waste of money when you really don't car much about bling in the engine bay. I am performance over looks any day of the week when it comes to the engine. As far whether to protect or not to protect it depends what climate you live it. I have seen unprotected headers last a long time without rust in Texas. The only thing is that all the factory paint burns off and it looks like ****. The header was fine though.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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i bought my pacesetter header already ceramic coated and it was only 266
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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yea im trying to buy that same one from a guy on here but he hasnt responded to my pm
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
If you put a good coat of high temp paint on your header before you rap it you will not have any rust problem. I have taken the rap off after 3 year of use and the header and paint I put on still looked great. The header rap works better than almost any coating. I don't ever get the coating because it is a waste of money when you really don't car much about bling in the engine bay. I am performance over looks any day of the week when it comes to the engine. As far whether to protect or not to protect it depends what climate you live it. I have seen unprotected headers last a long time without rust in Texas. The only thing is that all the factory paint burns off and it looks like ****. The header was fine though.
how do you prep them befor you paint...I could never seem to get the paint to stick well enough....but I could see how painting first would help a lot.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by el_angelito
thats right in engineering classes specific in fluid and thermodynamics ,the ceramic coated is the keep the gas hot inside the header to maintain a constant air flow and good air emisions ( no viscocity or less)reduces friction in the exhaust line. just in case is a perfect condition to the engine and the exhast.

Well.. i guess you havnt got to heat transfer classes yet..

yes there are benefits to hotter EGT, but that is assuming you have significantly lower thermal resistance and have hotter EGT..
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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how do you prep them befor you paint...I could never seem to get the paint to stick well enough....but I could see how painting first would help a lot.
I have always just used steel wool or sand paper to rough the surface up and it has alway worked. I let it set for at least 24 hours after painting before I wrap it. If you have access to a sand blaster that would work even better. Do several coats of GOOD high temp paint.
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