06sleeperSS

hey guys i got an 06 ss/sc and iwas wondering? Can u wrap the aftermarket coldair intakes with header wrap? would it keep the high temps out or would it do the opposite? just wanted to know if i can keep the temp down a little more, or i have to buy a different type of wrap for the intake . reason why i ask this its because i found a box of header wrap in the trunk of an old car in my back yard. i plan on wrapping the exhaust manifold with it too. Cant let it go to waste either, you know.

FryLoch

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Any gain that might have in keeping the intake cooler would be null do to the supercharger

TurboTechRacing

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If you have a Injen or K&N intake, wrapping it wont help. We have never heard of this being done with any additional power results.

AWDstylez

Where's the button that sends an electric shock to the guy that gave totally incorrect info?

No, actually it'd be more beneficial than in an NA car.

It could help intake pipe heat soak on the part that's under the hood. Don't use header wrap, that's for holding heat in. You want the reflective stuff to keep the heat out, specifically this...
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

And if you need any other heat related stuff they have it all.
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...ction=category

Onyxd04Redline

Air goes through the intercooler. Want a colder charge? Address the Intercooler system

Mikey851

Exactly, and this I believe is what the original response was getting at.

FryLoch

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It would make no difference if you could make the intake colder, the supercharger is jus gonna heat the air up again, Like redline said, if you want cooler incoming air you have to address the intercooler.

an0malous

even when my IATs are up over 160, and the car is heatsoaking...
the intake pipe never feels hot.
warm at the very worst.
it may help....but IMO, not enough to warrant the cost.

Psykostevo

I had it done for a while, but no significant results. And I scanned it with my HPTuners so it was real proof.

AWDstylez

Wrong. The hotter the incoming air is, the more it gets heated up. That means hotter incoming air gets heated disproportionately more than cooler air. So as an example (that means I didn't actually do the math) let's say you take in 90*F air, it will get heated something like 150*F for a total of 240*F. But if you take in 60*F air, it will only get heated like 130*F for a total of 190*F. This also means less load on the intercooler, which will also results in low IATs. Read a book before making dumb statements.

FryLoch

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The only way for there to be any difference is if you had the incoming air lowered by about 80 degrees. Maybe if you covered the intake in ice... Dont be a smart ass

0redline6

^^ +1... and rep lol

an0malous

The rate of heating depends on the magnitude of the temperature difference between the substance in question... and its surroundings

if the temp of the engine/surrounding air....is constant....
then the COOLER air, will be able to absorb more of that heat, quicker...
than air that is warmer.

so where do you get your information?

Area47

it is null and void on our cars.

Mikey851

He pulls his information out of his ass.

Area47

information from magic clowns

AWDstylez

You sound like some kind of matamatical jeanyus or something. I bow to you.

Here's the forumla, plug in some numbers and prove yourself wrong.

deltaT = absolute intake temp (intake temp in degrees of Rankin) x [{pressure ratio^0.238}-1]
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compressor efficiency

Now I would think that an intraweb wizard jeanyus like yourself would be able to plug in some numbers and self-own, but I'll help you out with it just in case.

Let's pick an intake temperature. We'll say 140*F since you think that pulling hot air in doesn't matter. Add 460* to that to convert to Rankin temp, and you have 600*R.

Pick a boost pressure, we'll say 15psi. Convert it to pressure ratio. (15 + 14.7) / 14.7 = 2.02PR

Now we need a compressor efficiency. We'll say 65% because roots blowers suck a nut.

deltaT = 600 x (2.02^0.238 -1)
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0.65

That gives a temperature increase of 168* Add that to the original intake temp of 140* and we now have a compressor discharge temp of 308*F.


Ok so let's try this again. We'll change nothing but the temperature of the intake air.
This time we'll say it takes in 100*F air. Converted to Rankin that gives 560*R.

deltaT = 560 x (2.02^0.238 -1)
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0.65

This gives a temperature increase of 156*, that's 12* LESS OF AN INCREASE than with the 140* air. Add that to the original 100* intake air and we now have a compressor dicharge temp of 256*F, which happens to be 52*F lower than previous. Keep in mind, that's 40*F drop in intake temp, yielding a 56*F drop in compressor discharge temp. Do you see how that works now, jeanyus boi?

Psykostevo

Look, quit your bitching about it. I wrapped mine a long time ago and scanned the results. It didn't do a damn thing. That could be measured with the sensors on the car.


My next mod attempt is a drilled thermostat. That ought to help lower cylinder head temperatures. That's where the money is at. And Who knows if that will even work!

Area47

the drill trick i did on my 280z. it works. dropped the coolant temps 15 degree's

Psykostevo

That's what I am hoping. I want a 10* drop in Coolant, hopefully resulting in a cooler cylinderhead too ;-)

AWDstylez

It won't.

Area47

it will.
it has proven it time and time again.

go pick up a book by smokey unich<sp>

AWDstylez

Why be a hack? Just get a lower temp one.

Area47

when the aftermarket does not provide. you must be creative.

Mikey851

Plus, you can't go without a thermostat at all so you need at least some sort of metering. The best way would probably be to get something fabbed up, but it's not necessary as long as everything is done right.