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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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CX Racing Mounting Hardware

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2 - 6 inch L brackets from Home Depot/Lowes
12 ft of 3/4 heater hose from any auto parts store
1/4 heater hose for the drain off
A box of 1/4 - 1 inch hex self drilling screws from Home Depot/Lowes
A box of 1/4 nuts from Home Depot/Lowes
Some 1/4 washers from Home Depot/Lowes
Zip-ties
Hose Clamps any auto parts store
1 gallon of Dex-cool from autozone


***Original Concern****
What are you using for your mounting hardware for this heat exchanger?

I can get mine installed tomorrow if I have the correct stuff. I don't want to screw over the tuner shop doing it and not get my stuff installed.

I bought two 6 inch L brackets (non flat) from Lowes and some 1/4 - 3/4 self drilling screws.
6 ft of 3/4 heater hose.

Is this correct? Bigger or smaller brackets? More brackets?

I want to run to the hardware/part store before I go back to the shop. Any help is appreciated.

I see most are cutting off the over fill near the filler cap. Is this necessary? If so what do you plug it with?

Most are cutting a notch in the bumper support to clear the fill cap or to clear the over fill nozzle?

Quick response appreciated.

Thanks.

I normally dont do this, but bump

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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looks like you have everything needed. I used this rubber nipple thing to plug the overfill. Tell the shop they will have to cut the bumper support in order to make it fit above the front bumper.

Edit: get a gallon of dex-cool as well, and some hose clamps.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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i got 5ft of heater hose, and had to go back and get another 5ft.

there is a lip on the crash bar that i had to cut/trim to get the L brackets in there.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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for those who didnt get the heat exchanger.... go to www.ottperformance.com they have a slightly smaller cx racing heat exchanger kit with brackets, bolts, and hose to mount it up. Must say its super easy to put in as it only took me about a hour to put the h/e in and about another 20 min to purge the system
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Z Speed
for those who didnt get the heat exchanger.... go to www.ottperformance.com they have a slightly smaller cx racing heat exchanger kit with brackets, bolts, and hose to mount it up. Must say its super easy to put in as it only took me about a hour to put the h/e in and about another 20 min to purge the system
this kit looks real nice and the price is very reasonable. Did you have to do any cutting on the bumper support?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Z Speed
for those who didnt get the heat exchanger.... go to www.ottperformance.com they have a slightly smaller cx racing heat exchanger kit with brackets, bolts, and hose to mount it up. Must say its super easy to put in as it only took me about a hour to put the h/e in and about another 20 min to purge the system
How think is that CX HE?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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yeah. if you use "BUY IT NOW" on ebay the cx h/e on ebay from cx racing motorsports is $149 + $28 shipping. it is a bigger heat exchanger than the one fast98 sells or on www.ottperformance.com. also to buy the brackets and stuff and washers and nuts and stuff would be less than $20 bucks. now thats $200 dollar's shipped all installed and a bigger h/e vs. $300 dollars shipped for a smaller h/e that comes with the brackets.

if you got the extra $100 bucks go ahead buy the smaller one and get brackets that you can buy at lowes or home depot.
yea but with that big of a heat exchanger your losing velocity. You need to keep things in a reasonable size to make them work properly.

Originally Posted by ebristol
How think is that CX HE?
guessing you mean thick

Overall size: 23.5x6.75x2.7.5(end-tank) inch
Core Size: 21x6x2.5 inch

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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keep your eyes peeled for jbodyperformance. they are coming out with a nice high flow pump for us. dont say anything about velocity just yet

here's a copy and paste from my PM box


Re: hey
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is this what it is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jockey_pump
That has nothing to do with the product we offer. The inline jockey pump is axed, however, we will be offering a replacement pump kit that will allow you to install a better pump, with higher flow and actual NPT fittings. The pump is also rebuildable and continuous duty rated, which far exceeds the intercooler pump that comes on the LSJ.

There may be an affect on IAT2 temps in about the 5-7% range. There's an issue right now where we look at the stock pump and find that its highly prone to failure since it is not continuous duty rated. The pump itself is poor construction and a replacement is necessary.

The price of this product is still unknown until we are complete. Horsepower gains are also unknown, but are expected to be minimal. The point of this product is to provider an entirely better pump.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeJJones
keep your eyes peeled for jbodyperformance. they are coming out with a nice high flow pump for us. dont say anything about velocity just yet

here's a copy and paste from my PM box


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is this what it is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jockey_pump
That has nothing to do with the product we offer. The inline jockey pump is axed, however, we will be offering a replacement pump kit that will allow you to install a better pump, with higher flow and actual NPT fittings. The pump is also rebuildable and continuous duty rated, which far exceeds the intercooler pump that comes on the LSJ.

There may be an affect on IAT2 temps in about the 5-7% range. There's an issue right now where we look at the stock pump and find that its highly prone to failure since it is not continuous duty rated. The pump itself is poor construction and a replacement is necessary.

The price of this product is still unknown until we are complete. Horsepower gains are also unknown, but are expected to be minimal. The point of this product is to provider an entirely better pump.

well its a relief that theres gonna be a replacement pump but the problem is jbp has fairly high if not over priced stuff

Originally Posted by CBodnar
picture of what yours looks like on the car?
I can get some... gotta get my camera from my buddys place ill get some up tomorrow

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I got it done today. Took 3 hours. I'll edit the OP of a full list hardware.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Z Speed
well its a relief that theres gonna be a replacement pump but the problem is jbp has fairly high if not over priced stuff



I can get some... gotta get my camera from my buddys place ill get some up tomorrow
this is true. lets just hope not though
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Z Speed
guessing you mean thick

Overall size: 23.5x6.75x2.7.5(end-tank) inch
Core Size: 21x6x2.5 inch
That is what I was looking for.

There is also something to be said about the mounting location of the super large cx racing he.

I used to have a corba he and the thing I hated about it the most is the fact that when I got to a stop light my IAT2 temps would get higher and higher.

The mounting location of the cx racing he will have the same problem. Since its mounted underneath the bumper it does not benefit from the car's cooling system fan. Unless the car is moving the cx he is hurting performance by quickly becoming heat soaked and warming the coolant instead of cooling it.

This will also hurt your performance when your stageing at the track. Imagine 120+ degree IAT2 temps when your ready to run the 1/4 mile... Your better off with just the stock he.

I would never put one of those style he's on my car again.

The solution is a he that mounts flush against the stock radiator. That way when the car is stopped the he is at least being cooled by the car cooling fan.

That is the reason I asked about the thickness of the dual pass cx he. I don't know about the balt but where I want to mount my next he it needs to be less then 2.5" thick.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sehoublackss
Thanks for the help guys. I got it done today. Took 3 hours. I'll edit the OP of a full list hardware.
pics?
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CBodnar
yeah. if you use "BUY IT NOW" on ebay the cx h/e on ebay from cx racing motorsports is $149 + $28 shipping. it is a bigger heat exchanger than the one fast98 sells or on www.ottperformance.com. also to buy the brackets and stuff and washers and nuts and stuff would be less than $20 bucks. now thats $200 dollar's shipped all installed and a bigger h/e vs. $300 dollars shipped for a smaller h/e that comes with the brackets.

if you got the extra $100 bucks go ahead buy the smaller one and get brackets that you can buy at lowes or home depot.
This is stainless steel allen head bolts with nylon lock washers, plus it comes with 4 stainless hose clamps 10 feet of 3/4 heater hose and these brackets aren't exactly the kind of cheap junk you will find at lowes.





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That is what I was looking for.

There is also something to be said about the mounting location of the super large cx racing he.

I used to have a corba he and the thing I hated about it the most is the fact that when I got to a stop light my IAT2 temps would get higher and higher.

The mounting location of the cx racing he will have the same problem. Since its mounted underneath the bumper it does not benefit from the car's cooling system fan. Unless the car is moving the cx he is hurting performance by quickly becoming heat soaked and warming the coolant instead of cooling it.

This will also hurt your performance when your stageing at the track. Imagine 120+ degree IAT2 temps when your ready to run the 1/4 mile... Your better off with just the stock he.

I would never put one of those style he's on my car again.

The solution is a he that mounts flush against the stock radiator. That way when the car is stopped the he is at least being cooled by the car cooling fan.

That is the reason I asked about the thickness of the dual pass cx he. I don't know about the balt but where I want to mount my next he it needs to be less then 2.5" thick.
I also offer a fan kit for this heat exchanger. Its not on the site yet but the basics are you can have one or two 300cfm fans attached directly to it. It will completely eliminate your worries. The kit should be ready for sale in about 2 weeks. I will also have a higher flowing pump bolt in setup very soon.

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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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get the heater hose at an auto parts store.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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I also offer a fan kit for this heat exchanger. Its not on the site yet but the basics are you can have one or two 300cfm fans attached directly to it. It will completely eliminate your worries. The kit should be ready for sale in about 2 weeks. I will also have a higher flowing pump bolt in setup very soon.
That's a good idea.

Do you know where I can find a HE or radiator that is approximently 12"x24"x 2"-2 1/2" thick? All the HE I find with 2" cores have at least 3/4" of extra material welded on. I found this one but they want way too much money....

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Im in the market right now for a HE but cant decide what to get or where to get it.
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Does a heat exchanger really make a difference? Like can someone share before and after temps or something?

Also, does the size matter, and is there one that is better then the rest?

Looking at the one at otto performance or what ever for 275. It comes with all the mounting stuff right?

also, will porting/polishing your supercharger keep it cooler?
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
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i did, how you think i found this thread :P

my searching skills must not be bankai level
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Originally Posted by Xenozx
Does a heat exchanger really make a difference? Like can someone share before and after temps or something?

Also, does the size matter, and is there one that is better then the rest?

Looking at the one at otto performance or what ever for 275. It comes with all the mounting stuff right?

also, will porting/polishing your supercharger keep it cooler?
It comes with everything you need to install it.....besides coolant.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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thanks, looking at your site I see you offer pulleys for the GM stage 2 hub. it has 2.7 listed there. I thought 2.8 was as low as the stage 2 hub would allow? can you really get the 2.7 and it will fit the stock stage 2 hub?
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Originally Posted by Xenozx
thanks, looking at your site I see you offer pulleys for the GM stage 2 hub. it has 2.7 listed there. I thought 2.8 was as low as the stage 2 hub would allow? can you really get the 2.7 and it will fit the stock stage 2 hub?
Yes and yes.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenozx
Does a heat exchanger really make a difference? Like can someone share before and after temps or something?

Also, does the size matter, and is there one that is better then the rest?

Looking at the one at otto performance or what ever for 275. It comes with all the mounting stuff right?

also, will porting/polishing your supercharger keep it cooler?
saw 40 degree difference with heat exchanger and full bolt ons and 2.8 pulley now with just meth added my intake manifold temps dont go above 120 degrees. Im gonna be putting my dual pass and option b on in a lil bit too lol. Cooling mods make worlds of a difference
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