Dyno'd my car today...
06-24-2008, 10:57 AM
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Dyno'd my car today...
And on the way home the ******* printout blew out of my window
So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02 
So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02
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06-24-2008, 11:05 AM
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When Synapse is done developing parts for the T/C I have a feeling it might end up in really good hands afterword.
We'll just have to wait and see.
06-24-2008, 12:17 PM
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And on the way home the ******* printout blew out of my window So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02
So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02 
06-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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Yes, I completely agree. I am already trapping 100mph in the quarter and I don't even have cooling mods yet. Hopefully people will see this thread and see the SOLID PROOF that supporting mods > slapping on a pulley + injectors and calling it a day.
06-24-2008, 12:45 PM
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Retarded Question from noob (since it applies directly to this thread and this is a very good thread for people especially like me to read):
What are the specific supporting mods you speak of?
What are the costs (parts/install)?
Where did you get yours done?
Does it affect the warrenty?
I'm one of the tards that is about to slap a GM Stage II onto a stock G85 06' SS/SC
I was thinking about getting the GMPP Sport exhaust package and perhaps an Injen Cold Air Intake
Does Injen cold air intake void warrenty where could I get one slapped in? and if I do... should i wait till i get stage 2 and gm exhaust so I don't get questioned about it?
Thanks,
Satch
What are the specific supporting mods you speak of?
What are the costs (parts/install)?
Where did you get yours done?
Does it affect the warrenty?
I'm one of the tards that is about to slap a GM Stage II onto a stock G85 06' SS/SC
I was thinking about getting the GMPP Sport exhaust package and perhaps an Injen Cold Air Intake
Does Injen cold air intake void warrenty where could I get one slapped in? and if I do... should i wait till i get stage 2 and gm exhaust so I don't get questioned about it?
Thanks,
Satch
06-24-2008, 10:43 PM
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And on the way home the ******* printout blew out of my window So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02
So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02 And yeah, it looks like the SC is somewhat bottle necked by the I/E. Very nice results for only those mods.
My own thoughts regarding the best bet for the SC, ya gotta remember that not everyone has the same plans for their car. My plan was to keep my vehicles 100% Dealer Warrantied. And that's why I went/and am staying with Stage 2 + 0.
Oh well, all you have to do now is get rid of the "Engaged to Tr1p1ng" in your sig and put your dyno numbers in there!
Priorities man, priorities!
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I agree that the intake is restrictive , that snorkle that sticks up on the side of the air box is pretty small. If your both running the stock downpipes , wouldn't that 2''- 2 1/4'' crush by the o2 sensor negate any gain a aftermarket exhaust would have? Or maybe that crush isn't as small as people think.... just being curious , not trying to be a dick or arguementative .
EDIT: After all that .... nice numbers lol.
EDIT: After all that .... nice numbers lol.
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And on the way home the ******* printout blew out of my window So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02
So I have to get another copy of that, lol. But I laid down 220whp and 190wtq with just airbox mod and 2.5" catback. Not too shabby. The car was still pulling, I bet if I took it to 7000 it would have tied the GM S2 in terms of HP. On the same dyno, the SS T/C laid down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp. ALSO, on the same dyno, a factory GM stage II cobalt (just stage 2 and nothing else) laid down 227whp/203ft lbs. So, that goes to show you that the factory GM intake/exhaust is very restrictive. Best bet is to get supporting mods (intake, exhaust, cooling even) before you go staged. Just my .02 Turbo Cobalt FTW!!
06-25-2008, 01:15 AM
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I am planning on going to synapse and having my SS/SC dynoed. I have stage2, header, intake, 3in ZZP catless downpipe, injen cai and GMPP cat back exhaust. I cant wait to see my numbers.
06-25-2008, 06:47 AM
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It's strictly a driver's race man!
If I'm not on shift at the Fire Department, I'll come and take some pics/vids.
You still have 7whp or roughly 10hp at the crank to make up!
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06-25-2008, 10:02 AM
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Dyno graph added to the OP. 
Just wait and see, Frank.
I know the Stage 2 loses out on torque, but with just a 10whp diff ...
It's strictly a driver's race man!
Unlike Chris (ahemm!) let me know when your going.
If I'm not on shift at the Fire Department, I'll come and take some pics/vids.
So Chris, what are you gonna do next to bring your car up to Stage 2 level?
You still have 7whp or roughly 10hp at the crank to make up!
It's strictly a driver's race man!
Unlike Chris (ahemm!) let me know when your going.
If I'm not on shift at the Fire Department, I'll come and take some pics/vids.
So Chris, what are you gonna do next to bring your car up to Stage 2 level?
You still have 7whp or roughly 10hp at the crank to make up!
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Retarded Question from noob (since it applies directly to this thread and this is a very good thread for people especially like me to read):
What are the specific supporting mods you speak of?
What are the costs (parts/install)?
Where did you get yours done?
Does it affect the warrenty?
I'm one of the tards that is about to slap a GM Stage II onto a stock G85 06' SS/SC
I was thinking about getting the GMPP Sport exhaust package and perhaps an Injen Cold Air Intake
Does Injen cold air intake void warrenty where could I get one slapped in? and if I do... should i wait till i get stage 2 and gm exhaust so I don't get questioned about it?
Thanks,
Satch
What are the specific supporting mods you speak of?
What are the costs (parts/install)?
Where did you get yours done?
Does it affect the warrenty?
I'm one of the tards that is about to slap a GM Stage II onto a stock G85 06' SS/SC
I was thinking about getting the GMPP Sport exhaust package and perhaps an Injen Cold Air Intake
Does Injen cold air intake void warrenty where could I get one slapped in? and if I do... should i wait till i get stage 2 and gm exhaust so I don't get questioned about it?
Thanks,
Satch
Here is a link to my SAE corrected dyno sheet. http://www.trifectaperformance.com/dynos.aspx (scroll to bottom of page)
2006 SS/Sc with 48,000 miles.
Stage II, 2.85 pulley, AIS Stage I meth kit, Clear Image long tube header and high flow cat. GMPP performance cat back, airbox mod, and one step colder plugs.
06-25-2008, 10:23 AM
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Here is a link to my SAE corrected dyno sheet. http://www.trifectaperformance.com/dynos.aspx (scroll to bottom of page)
2006 SS/Sc with 48,000 miles.
Stage II, 2.85 pulley, AIS Stage I meth kit, Clear Image long tube header and high flow cat. GMPP performance cat back, airbox mod, and one step colder plugs.
2006 SS/Sc with 48,000 miles.
Stage II, 2.85 pulley, AIS Stage I meth kit, Clear Image long tube header and high flow cat. GMPP performance cat back, airbox mod, and one step colder plugs.
06-25-2008, 10:41 AM
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What about the 70+ WTQ that the turbo car is making over your little blower.
"Horsepower Sells cars torque wins races"
No wonder i took almost a year off this forum, No one knows ****, with the exception of a few, but even the smart guys realized this forum is a zoo with misinformation and people trying to make themselves feel better so they dont even post anymore.
Face it buddy
Cobalt TC STOCK> Modded SS/SC
Anymore questions?
I'm not on here to sugar coat **** and make me look like a nice guy. I am on here to talk cars. If you cant take the truth then get a new car or start modding.
06-25-2008, 10:52 AM
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I am going to have to disagree with the tc>ss/sc thing. I personally am one who enjoys having a modded car. To the best of my knowledge, and please correct me if I am wrong, but with the computer being locked on the tc it is a pain in the ass to gain a decent amount of power from the mods?
As you can see in my sig there are lots of things that I like to do, sure i could do most of these on the tc and it would probably be faster, but I doubt its computer would like the meth, or would like nos much etc. Also, can these computers be tuned yet by shops, or hptuners etc.
Like I said, I don't really know much, but last I checked on them they were having issues. I really don't think a stock tc would be to much for me to handle. I realize from the factory they have more power and torque, but I am not from the factory I am from my own sweat blood and tears lol.
Just my 2 cents, please let me know if they are getting better.
As you can see in my sig there are lots of things that I like to do, sure i could do most of these on the tc and it would probably be faster, but I doubt its computer would like the meth, or would like nos much etc. Also, can these computers be tuned yet by shops, or hptuners etc.
Like I said, I don't really know much, but last I checked on them they were having issues. I really don't think a stock tc would be to much for me to handle. I realize from the factory they have more power and torque, but I am not from the factory I am from my own sweat blood and tears lol.
Just my 2 cents, please let me know if they are getting better.
06-25-2008, 10:57 AM
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I am going to have to disagree with the tc>ss/sc thing. I personally am one who enjoys having a modded car. To the best of my knowledge, and please correct me if I am wrong, but with the computer being locked on the tc it is a pain in the ass to gain a decent amount of power from the mods?
As you can see in my sig there are lots of things that I like to do, sure i could do most of these on the tc and it would probably be faster, but I doubt its computer would like the meth, or would like nos much etc. Also, can these computers be tuned yet by shops, or hptuners etc.
Like I said, I don't really know much, but last I checked on them they were having issues. I really don't think a stock tc would be to much for me to handle. I realize from the factory they have more power and torque, but I am not from the factory I am from my own sweat blood and tears lol.
Just my 2 cents, please let me know if they are getting better.
As you can see in my sig there are lots of things that I like to do, sure i could do most of these on the tc and it would probably be faster, but I doubt its computer would like the meth, or would like nos much etc. Also, can these computers be tuned yet by shops, or hptuners etc.
Like I said, I don't really know much, but last I checked on them they were having issues. I really don't think a stock tc would be to much for me to handle. I realize from the factory they have more power and torque, but I am not from the factory I am from my own sweat blood and tears lol.
Just my 2 cents, please let me know if they are getting better.
It's way too early to write them off. Just adding an intake and full exhaust onto the Cobalt SS/TC i would expect to see over 270 WHP and around 300 WTQ, Maybe a little less, But still those are better numbers than 99% of the cobalts on this website.