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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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E85 problems

So im really thinking about getting tuned on E85. I told a couple of my buddys that work at my dealership and they were saying that it makes fuel pumps go out and can cause alot of other problems. They said if I want my car to last I shouldnt do it, fuel can boil in the lines, car wont start in winter and stuff like that. Is any of this true? If I do go E85 are there certain things I should do to help prevent problems like that?
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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must not be many problems with E85 :/
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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ask the old heads that coverted to E long b4 me, ^_^ do a search you will see who have converted. i only have less than 5k on my e setup
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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yeah my tuner warned me about my car not starting on e in the winter and converted most people back to gas, i stayed on e... I started fine in freezing temratures but i did have to give the car 5 minutes or so to warm up. in terms of the fuel pump i cant see it being a problem since alot of gm cars are e85 cars... your biggest problem is finding fuel which there is many solutions for that
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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yeah my tuner warned me about my car not starting on e in the winter and converted most people back to gas, i stayed on e... I started fine in freezing temratures but i did have to give the car 5 minutes or so to warm up. in terms of the fuel pump i cant see it being a problem since alot of gm cars are e85 cars... your biggest problem is finding fuel which there is many solutions for that
alrite good, ya I live in minnesota so I wont have a problem finding E85 gas stations
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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alrite good, ya I live in minnesota so I wont have a problem finding E85 gas stations
I dunno.... I live in Iowa and it's pretty tough finding stations. I'd check online before making the plunge. It'd suck pretty hard if you had to drive a decent distance just to buy gas.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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its a pain to start in the winter ^_^ i guess kali blend dont drop to e70?
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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i live in texas and last year during winter i was still on e85 and my car had a tough time starting some days and yeah, i would have to let the car warm up or it run like crap for a few minutes.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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if and when you convert... the only reason they have problems starting in winter is because of the tune. you WILL need to be retuned for each season... otherwise thats when you run into problems. running e85 gives you more power, your motor runs cooler and better mpg (i heard). im sorry but if you run cooler im pretty sure that extends engine life. to make it even better get cooling mods and you'll be PERFECT
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyMilo
I dunno.... I live in Iowa and it's pretty tough finding stations. I'd check online before making the plunge. It'd suck pretty hard if you had to drive a decent distance just to buy gas.
i have the site that works best posted on the gm sport compact site
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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if and when you convert... the only reason they have problems starting in winter is because of the tune. you WILL need to be retuned for each season... otherwise thats when you run into problems. running e85 gives you more power, your motor runs cooler and better mpg (i heard). im sorry but if you run cooler im pretty sure that extends engine life. to make it even better get cooling mods and you'll be PERFECT
i didnt need to be retuned, but its strongly suggest you dont go racing when its freezing out(who does that anyway). better mpg is BS.... u use 20% more fuel thus the need for 80lb injectors. in normal cases though we save money on gas because e85 is pretty cheap.. even with the 20% more fuel usage i save about 10 cents per gallon over using 93.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyMilo
I dunno.... I live in Iowa and it's pretty tough finding stations. I'd check online before making the plunge. It'd suck pretty hard if you had to drive a decent distance just to buy gas.
Ya i searched on this site and found over 20 within 10 milies of where I live, closest is a mile away
Alternative Fuels and Advanced Vehicles Data Center: Alternative Fueling Station Locator

Winters get really cold here and are long but I think im just going to be driving this car for the summer this year and get a winter beater anyways. well thx for the info guys sounds like not many problems besides car starting in cold
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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if ur car is garage kept in the winter its alot easier to start
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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E85 is the devil.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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apparently from what i have heard here in utah they only run e70 all year long but call it e85? don'tknow if it is true tho
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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i run my car when its freezing out... Heat Soaked isnt even a factor so no excuses for those people lol
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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If you have plenty of E85 stations in your area, run it. Definitely worth it, imo. We only have 4 stations in NC, thats it. If it wasn't for the lack of stations, I'd be running it as we speak.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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I heard on the news they recently started offering E85 in my area.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 02:05 AM
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Its worth it OP. I live one state over so I know how cold it gets and my car started every time last winter on E85 just like it was on 91, there are just a few things to change in the tune to make it start perfect is all. I have it parked this winter otherwise Id be running E through the winter again.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 02:13 AM
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What mods are required to run E-85, Im thinking it might become more popular.
If your tuend for E? cant get it, can you still run say 87 or 93??

Do you need any new fuel filters? Or Gaskets ? Or anything?
I think some one mentioned Larger fuel injectors...
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 03:41 AM
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You guys def have me convinced on going E85! full exhaust and intake are on way, once thats on I will orderd the injectors, heat exchanger, 2.8 pulley and get the tune done before summer
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 03:46 AM
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I'm going e-85 after my motor is broke in!
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by insylem
What mods are required to run E-85, Im thinking it might become more popular.
If your tuend for E? cant get it, can you still run say 87 or 93??

Do you need any new fuel filters? Or Gaskets ? Or anything?
I think some one mentioned Larger fuel injectors...
All you need are injectors and a tune. And you really shouldnt run gasoline on the E85 tune. In an emergency you could put some gas in it and limp it to an E station if its not too far, but do NOT go WOT at all.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
All you need are injectors and a tune. And you really shouldnt run gasoline on the E85 tune. In an emergency you could put some gas in it and limp it to an E station if its not too far, but do NOT go WOT at all.
hows running tvs with 96#? are your injectors maxed out?


edit: or is it 98#?
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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Don't do it!.. You engine falls out... your seats get uncomfortable.. and then it will catch on fire... E85 is terrible!..



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