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Old 05-22-2007, 09:16 AM
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Future Mods? Suggestions

So as everyone knows, yes i am 17 and hard to make money, now since im out of high school and going to work full time over the summer and go to college next year and make more money, i wanna know what kinda things i can do to this cobalt, i want power from the supercharger, i dont wanna go turbo or twincharge, i might wanna do a blower swap, but to what? and what kinda things could i do for more power but at least be reliable?
Old 05-22-2007, 09:23 AM
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i would just to gm stage 2 for now, if you can afford it, you don't wanna do to much incase there's a problem you gotta be able to afford to fix it, plus GM stage 2 is under warranty
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Originally Posted by random1121
i would just to gm stage 2 for now, if you can afford it, you don't wanna do to much incase there's a problem you gotta be able to afford to fix it, plus GM stage 2 is under warranty
thats true but there is a problem with doing stage 2, no dealer around here wants to install it, becasue they have never did it before, and i asked if they were to install it how much they told me nearly $500

is there a Kenne Bell swap kit out yet? or will there be by like September time?

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Old 05-22-2007, 11:26 AM
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no kenne bell, someone posted a thread at one point with a copy of an email they got from them saying "we're not planing on doing anything for the cobalt" blah blah
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no kenne bell, someone posted a thread at one point with a copy of an email they got from them saying "we're not planing on doing anything for the cobalt" blah blah
Got the link to this?
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yeah but could there be a custom like intake manifold or piece made to fit a kenne bell blower
Old 05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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to the thread:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ght=kenne+bell
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Originally Posted by RedEcotecSS
OH!!! I e-mailed them myself one day. They said the same thing. But I think ss_super was referring to the twinscrew SC that Tag Racecraft is currently making for the SS/SC's. Its not a kenne-bell/whipple, but its a Lysoalm (sp?) twinscrew, which works just as great.

I thought you were referring to TAG when you said they weren't making one for our cars. I believe Blown 4-Banger is doing a custom whipple swap for his car.
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Ahh gotcha
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yeah how can i get more boost without the dam m62 we have, becasue that thing produces too much heat, and i dont want to mod it if its gunna heat up, and i rather switch to a twinscrew and mod that
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
yeah how can i get more boost without the dam m62 we have, becasue that thing produces too much heat, and i dont want to mod it if its gunna heat up, and i rather switch to a twinscrew and mod that
Said like a genius. That's my approach on it too.
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think about it man, in the winter when it's realll cold out, on your way to somewhere just give it hell, get out, and open the hood and you can get all warm again. It's a win, win. haha.
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Said like a genius. That's my approach on it too.
yeah thats y i havnt done stage 2 or nothing besides the cost of it and install, but i wanna switch the blower out first
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
yeah thats y i havnt done stage 2 or nothing besides the cost of it and install, but i wanna switch the blower out first
Honestly, if I could buy an SS/SC and it already had stage 2 on it, I wouldn't mind it, but as for puttiong money into it, no way. I'm planning on going an alternative route with forced induction, a much more efficient route. No need in wasting money.

I'd rather put a 2.6 pulley on the twinscrew than the eaton!!!



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think about it man, in the winter when it's realll cold out, on your way to somewhere just give it hell, get out, and open the hood and you can get all warm again. It's a win, win. haha.
Yeah, alternatively, on a hot day *sputter-sputter-sputter-BOOM*
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Honestly, if I could buy an SS/SC and it already had stage 2 on it, I wouldn't mind it, but as for puttiong money into it, no way. I'm planning on going an alternative route with forced induction, a much more efficient route.

I'd rather put a 2.6 pulley on the twinscrew than the eaton!!!
for real!! what twinscrew blower will go on this car tho?
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
for real!! what twinscrew blower will go on this car tho?
check out the threads on TAG's twinscrew project they're doign for the balts. They have all the info that needed.

Pics as well.
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
check out the threads on TAG's twinscrew project they're doign for the balts. They have all the info that needed.

Pics as well.
yeah i saw, but what kinda blower is that? and how does it bolt up to our manifold? and what other changes do we have to make to put one?
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Wow... for 17 and only having one summer to save you've got some ambitions.

Have you considered getting a 2.8 and some 60lbers and getting a custom tune? It won't generate too much heat... plus you could go with a front-mount or the dual-pass mod to keep temps down.

A supercharger swap is gonna run major $$$... like a couple of thousand... plus tuning and etc. You are better off making power with what's already on there. Sure, it has it's limits too... but I don't see anyone around here making more than 300hp with an engine that's still in one piece.

If you want serious power you need to upgrade the pistons and valve trane as well.

You could always just put her on the bottle... 50 shot or so... no need to worry about heat there.
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alright so i guess going stage 2 and 2.9 pulley is good? for now
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Stage 2... 2.9... solid mounts... intake... header/manifold... exhaust...

that's not insanely expensive... and will give you a decent power increase over stock while still maintaining your warranty.

Do you have anything done yet? or are you bone stock?
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
yeah i saw, but what kinda blower is that? and how does it bolt up to our manifold? and what other changes do we have to make to put one?
Its a smaller blower that has less parasitic loss, and gives a lot more power. TAG is making it so that its 100% bolt on. Get to keep your Fujita intake and everything.

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Wow... for 17 and only having one summer to save you've got some ambitions.

Have you considered getting a 2.8 and some 60lbers and getting a custom tune? It won't generate too much heat... plus you could go with a front-mount or the dual-pass mod to keep temps down.

A supercharger swap is gonna run major $$$... like a couple of thousand... plus tuning and etc. You are better off making power with what's already on there. Sure, it has it's limits too... but I don't see anyone around here making more than 300hp with an engine that's still in one piece.

If you want serious power you need to upgrade the pistons and valve trane as well.

You could always just put her on the bottle... 50 shot or so... no need to worry about heat there.
That is actually a good idea. Though for the custom tune and stuff he'd have to have HPTuners or know someone with it, correct? That can run pretty steep as well.

And I believe the guy with the TAG turbo swap, who has 323 whp, is running on stock internals and a bad clutch.
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they aren't doing the Kenne Bell swap, but TAG is still hard at work on our twin scroll.
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
Stage 2... 2.9... solid mounts... intake... header/manifold... exhaust...

that's not insanely expensive... and will give you a decent power increase over stock while still maintaining your warranty.

Do you have anything done yet? or are you bone stock?
i already have the Fujita CAI, Corsa Sport Catback, Ingalls Stiffy, and DC Sport Strut Bar, so what does that leave me with?
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
i already have the Fujita CAI, Corsa Sport Catback, Ingalls Stiffy, and DC Sport Strut Bar, so what does that leave me with?
Solid mounts, header-downpipe, at least.
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Solid mounts, header-downpipe, at least.
hmmm solid mounts, how bout just the front tranny mount? would that work? and also stage 1 with 2.9" and stage 2 belt, dp and header hmm what else? plugs


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