View Poll Results: Those who have it. Which is better?
Stage 1 with smaller pulley
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stage 2
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03-30-2006, 02:09 PM
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i guess im trying to understand why everybody is going with the stage 2?
why are people not just buying the stage 1 for alot less money and then buying a 3" pulley seperatly?
why are people not just buying the stage 1 for alot less money and then buying a 3" pulley seperatly?
03-30-2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OKCSS
They are telling you that because they are too LAZY to look it up in GM Dealer World, or call the parts hotline.
I called 3 dealerships, and they all could order it.
I called 3 dealerships, and they all could order it.
03-30-2006, 02:18 PM
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People aren't buying the 3" pulley seperately because you still need a reflash after the pulley is installed so people are buying stage 2 to get everything done at once with a warranty.
03-30-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
People aren't buying the 3" pulley seperately because you still need a reflash after the pulley is installed so people are buying stage 2 to get everything done at once with a warranty.
buy stage 1 and pick up your own 3" pulley.. then take it to the dealership for installment.. i dont see how this negates a warrenty..
03-30-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by r_fiorda49
YAY, sounds good i've been wanting to lay down some base numbers anyways. Maybe it'll be cheaper if more ppl go 
After I tweak the Mustang a bit I will be heading over there to see what #'s it lays down. In about a month or so...and if it isn't raining.
03-30-2006, 02:26 PM
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Does anyone know how crate engine depot is distributing the kits ? They are selling it for 100 dollars less.... my question is are they going to send the new flash file on a cd and then you take it to the dealer for the flash ?
03-30-2006, 02:28 PM
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It negates the warranty because it's not a GM pulley. Plus you know car companies, they have guidlines that have to be followed strictly to conform with the warranties. That's all. If you can pull it off let everyone know so they can save some money. Thanks
03-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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Stage Kits Price and Dealer Location
Please Post up in an orderlly format for those of you who have ordered the stage kits.
Stage #
Price
Dealer Name and Location.
Hopefully this can help everyone else looking for the kits not only find a dealer close to them that can get them, but also help out the people thats local dealers want 1000 for stage 2 while others are getting it for 650.
Please only Post If you Have this info, or are looking for a place near you.
Stage #
Price
Dealer Name and Location.
Hopefully this can help everyone else looking for the kits not only find a dealer close to them that can get them, but also help out the people thats local dealers want 1000 for stage 2 while others are getting it for 650.
Please only Post If you Have this info, or are looking for a place near you.
03-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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everybody should buy the stage 2 that way it ***** up the tranny.. then GM will have to do a recall on the trannies for the lack of strength it can hold and at the same time they will prolly have to change the mounts..
mm.. recall heaven waiting to happen
mm.. recall heaven waiting to happen
03-30-2006, 02:32 PM
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My feeling about the transmission is this.... the the tranny is fine... the clutch is the weak spot... If you don't hammer it and slip the clutch all the time then your stock clutch will probably be could for at least another year..... we will see..... i am getting the kit and then if the clutch goes so be it I guess a spec stg2 will be next.
03-30-2006, 02:32 PM
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Just called GM Perf Parts and they were like your numbers are bad...
Then he proceeded to tell me I was wasting my money because the car already includes a smaller pulley and heavy duty injectors...
At which point I replied... WTF... (not really)
I said The pulley decreases by about 1/3 of an inch and the injectors increase another 5 or so lb/s.
To which HE replied.... NO (seriously)
He said its not in his cobalt build book and I didn't know what I was talking about then proceeded to tell me to come down to his store and he would show me how to get a 400hp cobalt with a s/c cams etc etc...
I told him i ALREADY HAD a S/C he goes ohh... I don't know then.
-Rich
Then he proceeded to tell me I was wasting my money because the car already includes a smaller pulley and heavy duty injectors...
At which point I replied... WTF... (not really)
I said The pulley decreases by about 1/3 of an inch and the injectors increase another 5 or so lb/s.
To which HE replied.... NO (seriously)
He said its not in his cobalt build book and I didn't know what I was talking about then proceeded to tell me to come down to his store and he would show me how to get a 400hp cobalt with a s/c cams etc etc...
I told him i ALREADY HAD a S/C he goes ohh... I don't know then.
-Rich
03-30-2006, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by astrocrep
Just called GM Perf Parts and they were like your numbers are bad...
Then he proceeded to tell me I was wasting my money because the car already includes a smaller pulley and heavy duty injectors...
At which point I replied... WTF... (not really)
I said The pulley decreases by about 1/3 of an inch and the injectors increase another 5 or so lb/s.
To which HE replied.... NO (seriously)
He said its not in his cobalt build book and I didn't know what I was talking about then proceeded to tell me to come down to his store and he would show me how to get a 400hp cobalt with a s/c cams etc etc...
I told him i ALREADY HAD a S/C he goes ohh... I don't know then.
-Rich
Then he proceeded to tell me I was wasting my money because the car already includes a smaller pulley and heavy duty injectors...
At which point I replied... WTF... (not really)
I said The pulley decreases by about 1/3 of an inch and the injectors increase another 5 or so lb/s.
To which HE replied.... NO (seriously)
He said its not in his cobalt build book and I didn't know what I was talking about then proceeded to tell me to come down to his store and he would show me how to get a 400hp cobalt with a s/c cams etc etc...
I told him i ALREADY HAD a S/C he goes ohh... I don't know then.
-Rich
lol sounds like an idiot with a dipstick up his ass
03-30-2006, 02:37 PM
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i dont know if any of you have seen it but i just checked revitup and they are building another kit supposedly 2.6" pully and will actually contain a cd For PCM tuning.. lol
03-30-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by astrocrep
.....I told him i ALREADY HAD a S/C he goes ohh... I don't know then.
-Rich
-Rich
I had to do this for a parts guy here in Maple Ridge but he was nearing retirement so he had an excuse.As for the clutch. I am ordering my clutch\flywheel now and that way the wife can kill it (the stock one) as she learns to drive my car. This way she agrees to pay half for the clutch
03-30-2006, 02:50 PM
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One thing im wondering is how much with the kit bring down our gas milage. The car says 19/29 but i get about 23-25. I dont want to be rolling around getting like 19. But i guess were going to have to wait til people get theres and tell us.
03-30-2006, 02:51 PM
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I actually work as a service writer at a gm dealership in s. fla. the stage 1 and stage 2 kits are definately in. I just ordered a stage 2 kit yesterday, it will be here in 5-10 days. it is listed in the 2006 update gm performance book. i will get the correct part numbers and even the page number from the parts book tomorrow when i go back to work (had teeth drilled today ouch).
2006 rally yellow cobalt ss/sc :
recaro seats
limited slip differential
ss logo caps
ss cobalt valve cover insert
20% tint
sunroof w/map light
xm radio
soon:
gm stage 2 kit
painted calipers with ss or ss cobalt decals
dba sport 4000 xs rotors
ss floor mats
previously owned:
2001 pontiac firehawk
2006 rally yellow cobalt ss/sc :
recaro seats
limited slip differential
ss logo caps
ss cobalt valve cover insert
20% tint
sunroof w/map light
xm radio
soon:
gm stage 2 kit
painted calipers with ss or ss cobalt decals
dba sport 4000 xs rotors
ss floor mats
previously owned:
2001 pontiac firehawk
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03-30-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SCCobalt951
One thing im wondering is how much with the kit bring down our gas milage. The car says 19/29 but i get about 23-25. I dont want to be rolling around getting like 19. But i guess were going to have to wait til people get theres and tell us.
Though 50% of my driving is above 70mph (commuting to work)
-Rich
03-30-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SCCobalt951
One thing im wondering is how much with the kit bring down our gas milage. The car says 19/29 but i get about 23-25. I dont want to be rolling around getting like 19. But i guess were going to have to wait til people get theres and tell us.